Tim Rideout is a leading SNP MEMBER who advocates cooperation between all groups and parties within the YES Movement. He is an economist who runs his own Map company. so it is safe to presume he knows his way about. He is someone I have always found made sensible arguments. He was the man mainly responsible for the SNP CONFERENCE supporting our own Independent currency. A decision the Party Leadership have studiously avoided implementing as policy. At the recent SNP Conference he supported two complimentary developments. I publish his speeches on both topics as they are both worthy and interesting. I suspect his biggest challenge lies ahead in convincing the SNP leadership to honour and implement these resolutions. Past experience suggests that won’t be easy.

The Scottish Reserve Bank (Establishment) Bill Passed by 418 to 37 votes

In April 2019 you rejected the Growth Commission sterlingisation in Appendix C.

You voted instead that Scotland should start the preparations for our own currency.

You wanted that to happen as soon as possible after a vote for independence.

The aim was to introduce our new currency as soon as practicable after Independence Day.

This recognised the fact that no advanced economy has ever sought to use the currency of another nation. To try to do so would be to start probably the most dangerous experiment in global monetary history. 

So, we need to follow the tried and trusted safe route taken by almost every country to become independent, and that is to have our own currency. 

We will use the Scottish Pound – and not the English one.

Having a central bank is a key component of having our own currency. It is also a pre-requisite for applying to rejoin the European Union. Using sterling rules out any EU membership application. So we must plan for that too.

Planning is key. After the Brexit vote London was in a ‘what do we do now’ state of total unpreparedness. It would be inexcusable for us to find ourselves in a similar position when we win Independence, however that is achieved. We will need to be ready, so we hit the ground running. Two years, or whatever it turns out to be, for a transition to Independence Day will go very quickly.

On the currency front there are things we can do now. One of those is to draft the bill to establish the Scottish Reserve Bank as the new central bank of Scotland. That gets us to the point where we are ready to introduce that legislation the day after we vote. Bear in mind it will likely take six months to be approved by Parliament.

The resolution before you is a very truncated version of what Dalkeith Branch submitted. Conference Committee deleted two thirds, namely clauses A to F of the principles for that draft bill. As those are the key elements, I will explain them briefly to you. They are important.

Critically, the Reserve Bank will be owned and controlled by the Scottish Government. It will be the monetary authority, meaning it will create Scottish pounds. It will own the Scottish payments system, and it will be banker to the State.

Vitally, we need to ensure it is under the control of Parliament and answerable at all times to us and our elected representatives. That means things like US style confirmatory hearings for the appointment of the Governor, annual reports, and appearances before parliamentary committees. Accountability is key. 

That is because as the monetary authority it will establish and issue the new Scottish currency. It will also set interest rates for lending to commercial banks, and it will work in collaboration with other with other international central banks. That means it will hold and manage our foreign reserves on behalf of the Finance Ministry.

At home, it will maintain the Scottish Government’s accounts and will provide such loan and overdraft facilities as are required to achieve the government’s fiscal policies, such as full employment and the Green New Deal.

Lastly, as envisaged by Douglas Chapman MP, it could manage a Scottish Sovereign Wealth Fund.

The Amendment to the resolution provides a forum to discuss those principles and I would urge you to support that.

In nearly 50 talks around Scotland, it is clear to me that you, Delegates, know that there is only one choice. That is our own currency. Let us start that process now, by voting in favour of the resolution

A SCOTTISH CIVIL SERVICE Passed by 364 votes to 64


I am an economist who makes maps, and so I am interested not just in what happens in the economy, but where it happens. That is issues such as national development between countries, decentralisation and regional inequalitieswithin countries.

It is no coincidence that successful countries usually have well diversified regional economies. One of the best examples is Germany where there is no dominant city – Berlin is only a third the population of London – and civil service jobs and departments are dispersed across the nation. The UK, by contrast, is one of the most centralised countries in the World. That is not just legal control from Westminster, but in terms of economic activity. London acts, in many ways, as a giant leach. The South East is overcrowded while houses and factories stand empty further north. The concentration of government departments and the associated well paid civil service jobs – hundreds of thousands of them – simply reinforces London’s dominance.

The current 7,500 Scottish Government staff are mostly Edinburgh based, as are those in Alistair Jack’s new Union Jack branded Imperial HQ. It would be very easy, therefore,for Indy Scotland to fall into the same trap as London if we do not recognise the issue and take steps to avoid it. We will not have a happy and successful nation if areas outside the Central Belt do not share in the benefits of Independence. Many areas already have problems of aging and depopulation, for example, as younger people leave for better opportunities elsewhere.

This resolution seeks to ensure that the Scottish Government leads by example. It is a very practical way to demonstrate commitment to a well-being economy. There is no reason for Ministries and Agencies to all be in Edinburgh or Glasgow, and indeed they should not be. Zoom has taught us all about modern communications! Similar size countries – Denmark – have around 50,000 core civil servants, so we will be adding thousands more posts as we establish Foreign Affairs, Defence, Finance, and right down to my area of interest in our own replacement for Ordnance Survey. 

The resolution specifies that the civil service jobs should be fairly distributed across our 32 councils in proportion to their populations. It also recognises that remote, rural and deprived areas can be helped to overcome those issues by an extra allocation of new civil service jobs, and thus proposes a minimum 20% uplift. That would apply to areas like Dumfries & Galloway, Inverclyde and Comhairle nan Eilean Siar.

What does this look like? 1970 posts for Dumfries – the Ministry of Agriculture maybe. 355 for the Western Isles – Coastguard HQ perhaps? 2654 for Aberdeenshire and 2310 for the City – Ministry of Energy and the National Energy Company? 1510 for Dundee as we add remaining benefits and pensions to Social Security Scotland. 

And so the list goes on.It isn’t just the civil servant either, as there is probably a partner and often a family.

We already pay the wages of these extra civil servants – they are just in London – so it isn’t an additional cost. London gets the spending and the tax, but sends us the bill. Moving it all to Scotland is an additional benefit because those wages will be spent here and the tax will be collected by Revenue Scotland. I would also add we must build a civil service that suits us. We do not need an Ofcom, Ofgem or a rail regulator for example.

Delegates, let us take this important step forward in our preparation for Independence


I would have no problem supporting both these resolutions and commend Tim’s eloquent explanations of the intention and effect these moves involve. I find it easy to work with Tim and I am sure there are many others that I can agree with in the SNP. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THE STRONG DISAGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT SNP LEADERSHIP lead to division at all the other levels.They will not be there forever.

I am, as always

Yours for Scotland


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37 thoughts on “BEING REASONABLE

  1. The SNP is fortunate to count Tim Rideout amongst its members. A voice of reason and intelligence the membership support as the voting shows. Let’s hope the resolutions aren’t quietly shelved like so many others.

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    1. Tim Rideout is indeed a voice of reason and intelligence . He invariably plays the ball , never other players .He is also a cunning tactician so party hacks will find it difficult to neutralise him . Unfortunately the NEC is stuffed with hacks and placefolk so his scope will be limited. I wish him well .

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    2. I am only replying to affirm.
      He is a top speaker
      I’ve turned up to listen, got one of his prints on the wall behind me, and left with the opinion:

      Every bit of mud the devocareerists wish to cover themselves with is washed away by his clearheaded explanations.

      I have to admit that when I asked him about the job guarantee(a key point of mmt), and he suggested I refer to someone called Cameron Brodie, my heart fell a little.

      I suppose you can’t judge a person by their friends


  2. There is a difference between moving government employees from one location to a new location, as opposed to recruiting people locally for these same jobs from within that new location. The UK Government is in the process of moving thousands of government employees – that is actual people – from London to what it calls ‘the UK regions’ which currently includes Scotland. That basically means thousands more people from the south of England are shifted to Scotland (and elsewhere in UK), it does not mean these jobs are necessarily for Scottish folk – particularly at senior levels.

    Is Tim suggesting those holding government jobs in Edinburgh simply get dispersed around Scotland? And does his idea do anything to address the prevailing Cultural Division of Labour in Scotland, which is arguably at the root of inequality and lack of opportunity here?

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    1. I think the only recognisable, tacit reasoning in government circles is that moving the well paid into these areas will provide opportunities for ‘the locals’ as a service class.
      Pretty much a zero sum game as the same thinking would insist those in service at current locations would lose their positions.

      Moving jobs’ is very different from actively creating them.

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  3. Without our own central bank and currency as well as having control of money supply and/or interest rates we will not be a truly independent nation-state. Tim’s resolution deals with this.

    I also think that distributing the civil service jobs across Scotland is crucial to getting the ‘buy-in’ to Independence of people across Scotland. Recruiting locally where possible will compliment this and ensure that the economic linkage benefits are enjoyed across the land.

    Finally regarding “WE MUST NOT ALLOW THE STRONG DISAGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT SNP LEADERSHIP lead to division at all the other levels.They will not be there forever.” – I couldn’t agree more Iain.

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    1. But if nothing is done to remove the current SNP leadership then the SNP are not YES and they will throw away this best ever opportunity to drive independence. If we don’t leave during the Brexit chaos no-one will vote – assuming a referendum is used – for more chaos that may be expected to mark the initial phase of independence. The SNP are destroying Scotland, possibly for all time. Why do the genuine grass roots and good folk not cross the floor – quit the party – and drive the message home? Time is not on our side.

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      1. I think that folk have become so indoctrinated by wheesht that they think that party unity is paramount.

        Of course it is not.

        It is YES unity that should take precedence.

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      2. “It is YES unity that should take precedence.”

        And that requires unity primarily on the core objective – independence – that unity is essential.

        Unity on other matters e.g. currency, EU, who gets the best jobs, what gender you want to be theday etc etc etc is unlikely, because these are ‘policy/political’ matters.

        The first and urgent objective for Scots is the freedom of the people, until then other people will continue to make our decisions for us.

        This gets us back to the need for a National Party to be established which has a strategy to deliver independence, not a party which tries to sell endless policies on this and that to a people. And first and foremost that Party needs to convey to the people why independence is necessary:

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      3. “more chaos that may be expected to mark the initial phase of independence” will be the BT line. Brexit chaos was deliberate, and no doubt our divorce negotiations will not be straightforward, but its sounds like you think “more chaos” after independence is inevitable rather than the early days being the path out of chaos.


      4. Time is not on our side.

        I wish our first minister felt the same way.

        I’ve got democracy on my side … if they think it’s about playing a waiting game, I’ve probably got time on my side as well.

        The fact that she stated the opposite revealed her complicity, count the ‘I’s and the ‘our’s’ or’we’s in that proclamation.

        Looks like 2 nil to me.

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      5. Annie – depending on the level of insanity in Westminster there will be greater or lesser challenges. Every sovereign country faces risk: there will be risk. Either we have the backbone required of a nation to make our own path or we don’t. Too many in the flawed franchise will buy into the mythical security of a “known Brexit” – be it ever so horrible. Once you have lost it all you know where you are – and the wretched SNP seem happy to watch Scots lose it all. Hell mend them.
        Moving while risk is everywhere makes more sense to me, given the high number of non Scots who will probably have a vote.

        Sturgeon looks like she is begging the EU to de-risk our sovereignty. Gutless. Embarrassing.
        There will be work to be done. There always is.

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  4. I have worked for a couple of companies where we were a new facility, away from their core site. In both cases, there was a central core of employees, transferred from the core site – with instructions to train-up locals to run the facilities long-term.

    One or two of the transferred gusy moved back to the core site, but, some remained, having discovered they preferred Scotland to England. In both cases, locals were trained-up and it worked.

    The same process should work with distributing civil service jobs, if done properly.

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    1. If done properly

      There’s the rub, I cannot see these ‘initiatives’ as having any other purpose than creating economic garrisons in ‘regions’ where there is little political support.

      You do not hand over garrisons to your subjects. Appointments will be made from and for the centre of power.

      Example given: The Scotland Office, metastasising before our eyes.

      I suppose you could suggest it could provide a ready made bureaucracy for a national government, but of what nature?

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    2. Socrates :SG Agency functions have been dispersed from Edinburgh outwards. The Crofting Commission to the islands, the Pensions Agency to the Borders etc and this is exactly what has happened with the staff.

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  5. If the SNP have not put the wheels in motion with all the opportunities presented to them since the 2014 referendum, what chance of the SNP ever moving towards independence is zilch, the SNP is a lost cause, rather than indiref2 what we have heard from the SNP leadership is four-nation approach and that voice will grow louder as Sturgeon strengthens her power base. There will be no independence whilst Sturgeon is the leader (or whoever is calling the shots since I believe she is only the public face of the SNP dictatorship).

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  6. In Scotland, the vast majority of public sector jobs are already dispersed around the country, if you consider the biggest public sector employers are local councils (incl education), the NHS, and emergency services etc. That is not to say some central gov jobs could also be dispersed, of course they could, and some are.

    A key human resource issue facing any (new) country (after decolonisation) relates to the sourcing and development of its professional and managerial positions. As virtually all of Scotland’s professional + managerial posts have for many years been primarily advertised outside Scotland in the ten times larger populated rest-UK, and with many top jobs in Scotland also determined by the metropolitan centre – London, this explains why in many parts of Scotland many or even most of the professional/managerial positions today are filled by people from outside Scotland; e.g. over 60% of high school teachers in the Borders and Dumfries & Galloway are from rest-UK, between 30-50% in most other LA areas.

    Professor Michael Hechter referred to Scotland’s (and Wales, Ireland) exploitation as representing a Cultural Division of Labour within the ‘UK Internal Colonialism Model’, as well as narrow industrial specialisation focused on serving the needs of the ‘core nation’ (England). This is arguably the main challenge any colonially oppressed and therefore under-developed people and nation face – the lifting up of its ain fowk – which underpins their desire for independence, in seeking to eradicate inequality, discrimination, exploitation and poverty.

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  7. Well that is certainly a breath of fresh air, and a great deal of common sense, which is a very rare commodity these days.

    Unfortunately I hae ma doots whether anything will be done about this, or more likely, shut away in the darkest cupboard that the SNP can find. I see that the new covid variant is being used again as an excuse about the indy ref.Change the tune for heaven;s sake, we’re a’ scunnert o’ the same auld sang. Just tell the truth, you have absolutely no intention of doing anything to help Scotland’s case for independence have you. Onywho indy ref is the wrong road now, plenty of others ways to go about it, LEGALLY Nicola.

    socratesmacsporran, nice to see you comment here, like many of us, former wingers who still fight on.

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    1. Sturgeon is now being forced to make some incompetent moves towards an indyref where she will accept/impose a franchise that ensures Scots, who voted YES last time and would vote YES again, will lose. She has to go and go soon – ideally yesterday. The manner of her leaving must ensure her acolytes go with her. I fear that will not happen unless we drive strong action – use the investigations into the Salmond inquiry to demand police action in the teeth of COPFS opposition and hope there is an uncorrupted judge to try the case. Long shots and getting longer for the SNP …

      I believe the best path now is to focus on the Westminster election and sending down ALBA – do we believe this UKIP UKG will see out a full term? I think it will collapse in chaos with little notice. The council elections are our opportunity to get ALBA in the political door and get the party name on everyones lips.

      Anything the SNP do now will only damage YES.

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      1. One way of looking at Sturgeon’s COP performance – gaddin aboot wi warld hi heid yins – is that it was an extended interview for a TOP JOB – mibbees at the UN or the European Commission – something big enough to satisfy her bloated ego.

        We can only hope that she was successful!

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    1. “There’s no point in acting for independence if we don’t run our society on fundamentally different lines to the Tory policies we have inherited”

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  8. A friend who regrettably is still an SNP member received her St Andrews day card today from the SNP. The entire front of the card is a portrait of Nicola Sturgeon. Nothing about St. Andrew, and nothing about Scotland. Just her. The ego has landed, no doubt about it. The sooner she goes the better.

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    1. Yes my wife, who is no longer a member got her card today.

      Unbelievable but as you say Resipole the full front of the card was a photograph of Sturgeon – no message. Like Kim Jong whatever his name is in North Korea, one has to asks who is paying to pump out this great leader vanity crap. The dumbo members perchance?

      For many of us old enough to remember its like the ubiquitous yesteryear picture of the Queen plastered everywhere.

      And the message in side. Season’s greetings. Yep nothing about Saint Andrews Day, Scotland or even Christmas where the name gives one an inkling of what the celegrstion, was and still is about,

      Maybe Nicola would prefer support Tranny Day where everyone can use the boys gate. Ach I digress. Card straight in bin.

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    1. Aye, I got one of those as well, and I haven’t been a member for about four years. Went strait to the recycling bin.

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  9. Well said Mr Rideout.

    I’m worried that Sturgeon, gets her indyref in 2023, but with a ton of caveats imposed upon by Johnson, and as we all know Sturgeon would agree to it, and enfranchise anyone who has set for in Scotland for a day. To be honest I don’t want an indyref under Sturgeon’s tenure, she can’t be trusted to give it her all.

    No I’d much prefer to go down the SSRG’s route, the problem there is we don’t have an FM with courage to take us there, and we’re stuck with Sturgeon until 2026.

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    1. I do think that is the plan.

      Have a lacklustre campaign

      If yes wins. garotte the new replubic with compliance to tthe IMB.
      If no wins watch complete compliance to tthe IMB.

      I am happy to be a hardheaded moon howler….it’s as good as an idol as I can find

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  10. @alfbaird

    Your linked document above contains all of the qualities required of a manifesto—a manifesto for that sorely needed National Party, which even at this advanced stage, will surely manifest itself.

    For what my opinion is worth: This is an extremely important document which demands to be widely read and studied by all of those who profess themselves to be Scottish nationalists.

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