­ ­­ ­ We Are Set to Go  

A lot has happened since our last newsletter. And we spell it all out here. But this is not just a newsletter – it’s a Call to Action. First up, the Yestival runs on Saturday 8 October at Glasgow’s George Square (note the date change from 18 September). We’ll be there and we’d like to see as many of you there too. On 1st September, MP Neale Hanvey, before an assembly of 100 of us, read a Notice to Quit to the UK government and then The Edinburgh Proclamation. If you haven’t signed it, do so now
The Proclamation is the cornerstone of our international campaign to restore Scottish self-determination and constitutional rights. A campaign that will be blocked by the might of the British State. We have to be ready. And ready we will be. We set out here how we can and will promote this campaign, with a great announcement about iScot magazine. Finally, there’s training. We’re planning on running strategy and training events for anyone that wants to attend. So, it’s a long email. Better grab a drink of whatever takes your fancy and strap in.

 Here are the contents:­ ­Glasgow YestivalThe Edinburgh ProclamationThe Campaign, What is it and What Do We Do Now?The Challenge, featuring the Accession of King CharlesPromotion and iScot magazineStrategy and Training EventSummary and Action Points­­­­­

Please use the above links, in particular WHAT DO WE DO NOW. ­ The YESTIVAL takes place on Saturday, 8 October, at George Square, Glasgow. The Yestival celebrates the 8th anniversary to the day since our first referendum when 45% of Scots defied the unionist ‘Better Together’ campaign and voted for freedom. On the 8th, Yestival will be there in George Square to say this time we don’t need the permission of Supreme Court judges or the Union government to gain our freedom. Salvo will be there of course, with a stall and Sara Salyers is speaking. Come along. Talk to us about how you can help Salvo, swell the ranks of the Scottish Liberation Movement and get thousands of our people to sign the Edinburgh Proclamation.­ ­

 ­­ ­­­­The Edinburgh Proclamation­­ ­­ ­ To all those who made it to the event in Edinburgh on September 1st – thank you for being there on a weekday, some travelling for hours from the highlands, others travelling north for hours from the borders, some losing a day of work and some struggling through physical disabilities or discomfort to do so. It was an honour to stand beside you. Whether you were there, you were watching live or could not watch online, you will find photos for the scrapbook, video, copies of MP, Neale Hanvey’s speech, the symbolic notice to quit and the historic Edinburgh Proclamation all on the Salvo website and the Salvo Facebook page.

 However small this event, in the end it was an extraordinary, moving experience that will almost certainly go into the history books. We gave the British state its Notice to Quit. And with the Edinburgh Proclamation, we launched the first phase of the campaign to restore Scottish self-determination and constitutional rights, to obtain justice for Scotland and make Westminster answerable to the authority of the Scottish people in practice – not just in theory! Although we were ignored by the media the message we delivered that day will spread. It will grow louder and louder until it is heard, not just across Scotland, but across the globe.­ ­­ ­­ ­­­ ­­­­ ­­­ ­The Campaign: What is it and What Do We Do Now?­­ ­­ ­ ­­ ­ It is extremely unlikely that the UK government will ever be willing to release Scotland’s energy, water, land and export income from its grasp, or to suffer the indignity of being reduced by over a third in size and income. Forcing it to recognise the constitutional rights of the Scottish people through any domestic, legal route is just as unlikely: … there is neither precedent nor authority of any kind for the view that the domestic Courts of either Scotland or England have jurisdiction to determine whether a governmental act of the type here in controversy is or is not conform to the provisions of a Treaty, least of all when that Treaty is one under which both Scotland and England ceased to be independent states and merged their identity in an incorporating union. (MacCormick v Lord Advocate 1953 SC 396) 

Salvo has understood this from the start. We know that, while we will need domestic, political and legal strategies, ultimately only the scrutiny of the international courts and the international community will establish a just and lawful basis for Scotland’s relationship with the rest of the UK, or our right to withdraw from the Union if we so choose. 

This is why the Salvo event on 1st September in Edinburgh launched a campaign to achieve three things: The establishment of a Scottish Liberation Movement – a Liberation Movement is one of two types of organisation that qualifies for standing with the United Nations. This can be accomplished by reaching at least the same membership as claimed by Scotland’s largest political party (SNP) and the creation of a representative assembly, the Scottish National Congress.

 Having achieved standing, we can obtain an advisory ruling by the International Court of Justice. The question to be resolved is whether Scotland is:

a) in a voluntary political Union, one which is governed by a legal agreement (the 1707 international Treaty of Union whose conditions must be respected)


b) a colony ie, in a ‘union’ governed by the English domestic Act of Union 1706, under conditions subject to the Westminster parliament, (dominated 5:1 by the English partner in the Union).
 If 2a above is decided, we seek the expedited restoration of all our constitutional provisions, beginning with recognition of the SNC as the successor to the Convention of the Estates and including the rights of the people to all the benefits of their own constitutional law. We can begin the process of determining ‘the form of government best suited to our needs’, (the form we wish to have, not just the kind of party).

A referendum can then be called by the Scottish National Congress. This is because one role of the Congress is to uphold the clearly expressed will of the people. If that will is thwarted by government, the Congress acts with and for the authority of the people to uphold their sovereignty.

If it is 2b that holds, (ie it is found that we are not entitled to the stipulations of an international treaty), we must therefore be understood to be a colony and automatically granted listing for decolonisation.

Whichever is found to be the case, Scotland’s true position, the existence of its unique constitution and the right to what is called an ‘autochthonous’ (truly indigenous) constitution will be established internationally. 

Scotland’s right to self-determination will be established under international law and scrutiny. We can then begin the process of restoring our constitutional rights, our own form of government and the benefits that should be enjoyed by a people who own the oil, gas and renewable energy presently enriching others at our expense. We now have four organisations in place, working together for this outcome. The Scottish Liberation Movement has been formed to do two things.

First, qualify as an organisation with standing in the United Nations.

The path we have embarked on needs only the combined will of just one twentieth of the Scottish population to achieve all this for the whole nation! This is a ‘numbers game’ so, please, make sure you have signed up at

(This may be a frustrating process but for anyone who has filled out their details correctly and repeatedly – and repeatedly failed to get registered, please be aware this is not a fault with the website. It is already being attacked in order to put people off registering, very easy to do if you happen to have the ‘reach’ in multiple ways. For instance, we may be tagged as a ‘phishing scam’ so that many browsers block return emails. Please persist and help others to do so!)

Second, petition the International Court of Justice (ICJ) for an advisory ruling as to whether Scotland is, in reality, a sovereign, territorial nation in a voluntary political union or a colony.
 And that’s where Salvo comes in! 

In order to be a credible movement, we will need at least the same membership as is claimed by the largest political party in Scotland, ie the SNP. That gives us a target of 100,000 signatures. It might seem daunting, but that’s a lot less than 3 million!

Think of it this way; if every Salvo member signed up 50 new Liberation members over the next three months, we would exceed that number by the start of January. That’s one or two street events a month, perhaps less. If other Yes groups join the campaign, we could accomplish our target even sooner. The work starts now.

If you would like to meet up with members to organise an event, recruit more members and spread the word, please email Salvoauthorising us to share your email address and asking to be put in contact with other Salvo members. You can also reach other members on Facebook through different Salvo pages.

Resources: We have leaflets available, a booklet going to reprint shortly and the Edinburgh Proclamation can be run off on a household printer or reprinted locally by any group who wishes to do so. (It should be in every independence seeking home!) If you would like to get copies printed, please contact Salvo for the PDF. The same applies if you would like Claim of Right leaflets or support for an event.
 As we write, the Scottish National Congress Group is actively creating a structure to enable the Congress to function as the representative body of the Scottish Liberation Movement (SLM). A good deal of time, thought and planning will be needed to ensure that the Congress is as democratic and inclusive as possible, as genuinely and directly representative as possible and as effective as possible without becoming another ‘top down’, ‘trust-us-we-know-what’s-best-for-you’, club of elites.

As the ‘executive’ of the SLM, the large majority of members will be elected directly from the SLM membership with the remainder invited from among the elected representatives and officials of Scotland. A percentage of elected officials in the Congress will be essential because these elected representatives provide the reassurance needed by the international community that a much wider constituency is represented than the membership of the Liberation Movement.

Once its role in obtaining the advisory ruling is complete, the Congress is intended to become a nationally representative body able to fill the role of the old Convention of the Estates.
 The Scottish Sovereignty Research Group (SSRG) is supporting the formation of the Congress and looking into ways to promote its work, including organising events and providing research and advice where requested. There’s a clear, straight road ahead of us if we choose to take it. All that will stop us is failing to get the message out across Scotland.­ ­ ­­ ­ ­­­ ­­ ­­­ ­The Challenge We Face­­ ­ ­ ­­ ­ The best, possibly only effective way, to destroy this campaign is to prevent it from entering public consciousness. And the ‘blackout’ is already in place to do just that. As many will know, the Daily Express ran a dramatic and fear-mongering piece in advance of the Salvo event. As a result, we turned up to a police presence of at least 40 officers, some in vans, others forming a cordon all the way around Queen Elizabeth House and crowd barriers in front of the building. So you would expect that after all this build up, there might be some follow up as to what actually took place? Especially after all the fuss about the Perth rally from the National. The Express did a follow up on our ‘bizarre ceremony’.
 Otherwise, there was a peculiar and telling silence, well described on Joan Flitcroft’s blog:
 The Elephant in the room..
 There is an eery silence on MSM platforms tonight, one could be forgiven for saying they have been silenced. In fact, they probably have. Usually the formal opening of The Scottish Office in Edinburgh today would have got at least a few minutes cover, but no, the report has been quietly shelved. Out of sight, it never happened !
 But it did, overtaken news-wise by another event they don’t want you to see or hear.
 The fact that this event has not been mentioned anywhere on MSM or by the main Independence Party speaks volumes. Either they see it as irrelevant OR they see it as a danger. One week later Elizabeth I of Scots and II of England, Wales and N.Ireland, died. And on Sunday, 11th September, King Charles III was declared King. In a televised ceremony, he signed and delivered his separate oaths to these nations and, in Scotland’s case, delivered the following undertaking, in accordance with the requirements of Scots law: “I understand that the Law requires that I should, at My Accession to the Crown, take and subscribe the Oath relating to the Security of the Church of Scotland. I am ready to do so at this first opportunity. I, Charles the Third, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of My other Realms and Territories, King, Defender of the Faith, do faithfully promise and swear that I shall inviolably maintain and preserve the Settlement of the true Protestant Religion as established by the Laws made in Scotland in prosecution of the Claim of Right and particularly by an Act intituled “An Act for securing the Protestant Religion and Presbyterian Church Government” and by the Acts passed in the Parliament of both Kingdoms for Union of the two Kingdoms, together with the Government, Worship, Discipline, Rights and Privileges of the Church of Scotland.” The section underlined is that part of the oath which every BBC broadcast in Scotland edited out. They did not just end their coverage there, they actually cut it out, edited it so that Charles appeared to finish speaking at the word Scotland, (no Claim of Right ) and move back to the table. Why? Because the Claim of Right is still law and the biggest challenge of all to the authority of Westminster in Scotland. This is the challenge we have to overcome.­ ­ ­­ ­­­­Spreading the Word­­ ­­ ­ Online Our Indy bloggers and broadcaster are indispensable and Salvo is entirely indebted to them for the public awareness that is now growing across Scotland. Please like, share and follow as many as you can. Apart from the remarkable journalism you will find nowhere else, there is a style and a focus for every taste. There are blogs like Yours for ScotlandGrousebeaterCalton JockWings Over ScotlandBarrhead Boy and the ascerbic Peter Bell. Among these you’ll often brilliant writing and incisive writing and certainly facts and persepectives you won’t get from the mainstream media. We need them and they need us! “Video’ shows to support include a Through a Scottish PrismBuilding the Scottish StateTNT The Nation TalksTweet St., Independence LivePhantom Power FilmsTwo DaviesIndycarThe Nation Series and, probably, more! In Print – Liberation Magazine! Around 55% of the population still prefers to get news or topical reporting from a printed source so we also, desperately, need print media. To help us meet this challenge, iScot magazine has offered the campaign, and the Liberation movement, a free magazine in which to report, explain, observe and comment. iScot will print an edition of ‘Liberation’ within its own monthly edition. This is great news. It means we will be able to put out articles on things like the Common Good provisions and the requirement for the people (the nation), who own the land and resources of Scotland, to benefit from what they own, (oil, gas and wind power), rather than be impoverished by our own riches!

 These magazines have a physical life that will not disappear from view in a few days. Once read, they can be left in surgeries, community centres, Housing Association meeting rooms, cafes, pubs, buses and trains etc and continue to reach a wide audience. So, if you can afford it, (and only if you can afford it), please support iScot and the Liberation campaign by taking out a subscription. Leaflets. Booklets, Stalls and Events We have printed leaflets and booklets for printing or order. The Edinburgh Proclamation can by printed by anyone and distributed. Leaflets do most good where they can be seen by more than one person, put up in shops, cafes, surgeries, bus stops etc. But leafleting can be dull and hard and manning a stall isn’t something you want to do every week end. So how about putting on fun events where leaflets and invitations to join the Liberation movement are part front and centre? Here are a couple of ideas but you can probably do better! A Scottish hidden history, pub quiz night to include questions everyone should be able to answer on the Claim of Right (but won’t know), among the many other misrepresented Scottish facts; A fancy dress music night where people come dressed as Scottish historical characters and have to tell their stories convincingly to win the best ‘character’ prize; A Salvo coffee morning and food bank fundraiser with leaflets on every table and invitations to sign up for served with coffee or tea! Become a Salvo Area Co-Ordinator If there is no Salvo group in your area and you would be interested in becoming the area co-ordinator for a Salvo group please, please, please get in touch

Strategy and Training Event Many of us are hesitant about public speaking, even to small groups but just need a bit of training and support to do so. Perhaps organising an event with a discussion panel, putting up leaflets at bus stops, setting up a ‘stall’ in town on a Saturday or other events are more appealing. What are the best talking points to get people interested? What are the best ways of explaining what a Scottish constitution and the Claim of Right really mean?

 If you would like to take part in a strategic training day, please email uswith ‘Strategy Day’ in the subject line of the email so that we can book a venue according to the numbers. We are currently planning to hold this event in Edinburgh but will hold others around the country in the next few months.­ ­ ­­ ­­­­Summary and Action Points­­ ­­ ­ It’s been five months since the Alba Spring Conference and Sara Salyers’ exposition of the significance of the Claim of Right. Now we have the Edinburgh Proclamation, the Scottish Liberation Movement, and a fledgling Scottish National Congress that will take Scotland’s case to the ICJ and the UN itself. We will win this, but we can’t do it without the numbers. We need our fellow Scots to join us. We need them to: Join the Scottish Liberation Movement by signing the Edinburgh Proclamation
 Join Salvo
 Spread the word. Spread the Edinburgh Proclamation. Spread leaflets and booklets. Subscribe to and spread iScot magazineGet informed. Let us know if you want to run a training event.
 Start a Salvo group.
 And finally, if you can, come along to the Yestival on the 8th. We’ll see you there. We will win this. Yours for Scotland Salvo­ ­ ­­ ­ ­­­ ­SalvoSalvo, AB12 3NU, Aberdeen.­This email was sent to iain.lawson27@gmail.comYou’ve received it because you’re a Salvo member­Unsubscribe­­ ­


  1. This call to action from Salvo, fair warms the heart. A dramatic contrast to the non existent independence campaign from the dominant party, who, leaving aside the enforced inaction of the past several days, have done nothing visible to prepare for a referendum in October 2023.

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  2. It would be useful if the declaration could be signed without registering perhaps in the same manner as leaving a comment because I can’t register for some reason, it won’t let me. I doubt I’m the only one experiencing this problem.

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      1. Thanks, it worked just now when I tried registering again. Don’t know why it would not work previously, it just kept refreshing the page. Today I got a green confirmation saying check spam box and I received confirmation immediately.

        Thanks for the reply and solution.

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  3. Slight inaccuracy – “53% of Scots defied the unionist ‘Better Together’ campaign and voted for freedom”. Not 45%. And then they seen their aspirations dashed by many who had no right to be voting.

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  4. I have heard that in war haste can be folly, but have never seen delay that was wise.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    Sturgeon obviously doesn’t read Sun Tzu

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    1. It’s amazing what can get done if you don’t mind who gets the credit! 😁
      Sturgeon is idol enough for decades to come and idle enough in political effort for centuries.

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  5. Stuart Campbell, with few of his readership disagreeing, is strongly suggesting that Sturgeon has destroyed the Yes movement. Given her unlimited resources to do so, such a thing should surprise no one. Despite the unimaginable/unquantifiable resources at her disposal though, few of those resources can be successfully applied against the new-push, as exemplified by Salvo, the SSRG and Alf Baird’s colonisation critique. This is largely because the newly created terrain doesn’t correspond with anything that has gone before, with all that entailed in terms of its Nats versus Unionist rhetoric.This time around our opponents will be forced to contend with creative thought and action from hitherto unknown sources. Business-as-usual, it most certainly isn’t going to be for them, for no matter the superiority of your resources, you cannot destroy an idea; particularly one wherein the dialectics are beyond your ken or control.

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  6. «I shall inviolably maintain and preserve the Settlement of the true Protestant Religion as established by the Laws made in Scotland…..»
    Nuff said, no need for the rest of it, the meaning is quite clear.
    The promoters will have a hard slog selling this to Catholics, a largely proindependence constituency.
    Religion, and particularly residual «religion», is Unionism’s entry code into the Scot’s psyche.
    If as Campbell opines Sturgeon has destroyed the independence movement it is because she has been allowed to do so.
    Seemingly, few cared enough, until it was too late.

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    1. I am sure there will be attempts to introduce the religious card to discredit in this case suggesting it’s use is anti Catholic. Against this others will see the Edinburgh Proclamation, which is based on its Irish counterpart as being pro Catholic. Those of us who live in the West of Scotland are used to this and certainly I have become immune. I ask myself is this pro Scotland? If
      I can answer has my support.

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      1. If it is pro the Scottish nation and in execution free of the odour of sectarianism which as I suggested has been the card played so often by «the enemy» in the nation’s history then I wish it well.
        My ancestral lineage, in Iraq, is that of a people for whom the «confessional shiboleths» were a constant irritant. I would not desire that for a Scotland looking forward to freedom.
        The watch word is democracy. And a democracy that knows its history and culture and acknowledges’ ALL of it, warts and all.

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      2. Well said Ian, no place for division and hatred if it’s about Scotland and the people that means all, that’s what is good about the Edinburgh Proclamation amongst other things. Phil said exactly the right thing on Through a Scottish Prism today in regards to Christians.

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    2. I’m a Catholic and I signed it. I’m confident that removing Catholicism is not the intention of this. I’m sure Catholicism and all religions will do just fine in an independent Scotland.

      Only unionist Catholics/Atheists etc will play the religion card.

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    1. Ottomanboi, we have everyone here living together and have done for a long time. Some folk like to highlight the illusion of separation. My Catholic granny married my protestant granda and had loads of weans. I have family who are both and myself I am none. I don’t take people for their religious choices I take them for the person that they are. I dated a Sunni Muslim for years as well. I didn’t date the religion I dated the person.

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      1. Behind the person there is a heritage. Brits seem not to understand that. You cannot airbrush out the history to suit the occasion. You face it, acknowledge it and maybe agree to differ but as intelligent, civilized human beings, inshaallah…as we say, regardless of beritage.

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    1. Ottomanboi in many religious cultures they are devoid of love and sometimes marry for the heritage. If you are using religion to your advantage in order to have leverage or power then it’s because there’s no love there. As the Sufi Rumi said don’t plant anything but love because what you see bears fruit or words to that effect. So warts and all yeah I agree and lack of love is what has brought around so much of the worlds problems.

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  7. I have alluded to this issue on a couple of occasions. Those of us who care nought for religious differences cannot ignore the big elephant in the room, not just in the West of Scotland.
    A wee anecdote: When A.S. declared ‘Free in ’93’ I was working alongside predominantly R.C. colleagues.
    I was passionate about Indy then as now and did not hesitate to proselytise to all and sundry. They were universally Labour voters and initially resistant. However, one said to me’ You know we want to agree with you, but we’re worried that if your lot get in charge we’ll be persecuted again’. I was astonished, partly because I had no affiliation to any church but mainly because it had not occurred to me just how deep the effect of anti -Catholic and anti-Irish decades had on Catholics’ then antipathy to Scottish Independence.

    Since then, the Catholic population of Scotland have thrown over Labour and embraced the SNP and Independence. This is demonstrated in all the east of Glasgow and Lanarkshire seats that were unassailable in the past generations. The mistake is to jump past the last hundred years of universal suffrage which allows us democratically to elect MP who can in a stroke i,e, a G.E. can wipe out the Union.
    Trying to educate Scots people of all colours and none, and of all religions and none about an ancient and controversially worded Claim of right, which is entwined in the arcane and outdated concept of monarchy is a dangerous and needless diversion from the open goal of usurping Sturgeon and electing Representatives who can discard Westminster via a vote. Just because we have been cheated by the SNP, does not mean we have to excavate every hidden piece of history. This is the 21st century, we have the vote, let’s mobilise and use it to ditch the imposters.

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  8. People need to stop throwing doubt in the hearts of others and hatred. It’s obvious that there’s going to be people who comment in order to do exactly this but the thing is I personally love my country and people enough not to let anyone put any doubt in my mind and heart. There’s a lot of people who try to tell us all that’s wrong with our country but I prefer to look at all the things that are good and that’s mainly the people. We have been under occupation our history taken, our resources stolen and people who are always trying to tell us what we should dae when they really are in nae position to be doing so. These documents are going to help free us all.

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  9. There’s more than Catholics and Protestants in Scotland, Scottish and Irish. We have Vikings, Picts, Druids, Faeries, atheists, Muslims, Hindus etc. So people who are trying to make it all about two groups of people should just stop. The point of the documents are not about religion it’s about the sovereignty of all the people of Scotland and once this happens it’s the people who decide together how to bring our country forward and shape it together.

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  10. Fae…. I and others are not making it about anything divisive. In fact, it is to prevent division. If you care to read what I and Ottomanboi have written, it’s about Sovereignty, but utilising existing methods i.e. voting and ultimately dissolving the Union, instead of potentially alienating large sections of Scottish society who will feel instinctively that monarchical and sectarian language in the Claim of Right could turn them off at a visceral level. But I guess that you know that already based on your previous contributions.


    1. Well it depends on the person and how they perceive things. I have told you my position and those documents don’t make me feel excluded because I know that they were put there in order to help us today. Sometimes you have to look past the language and focus on the outcome. Ottomanboi was pointing out about heritage and my response to him is that I understand about the heritage of Iraq and countries in the East where they don’t often marry for love it’s heritage and at times financial or family. Now the royals here do this and it’s not led to happiness for them or us. Do you feel included now in Scotland and like your voice is heard? Does the weans that don’t stand a chance have a voice? Does the person who is an addict?


    2. It’s not an either . .or issue Lochside.
      There’s no reason why voting for Independence parties cannot flank this Salvo initiative and the Sovreign Scots initiative.
      No reason why individual Scots cannot sign up to both alternatives AND vote for Independence when the opportunity arises

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      1. Totally agree. If they know what we are up against then they would know that voting never worked before as well as the dirty tricks that were used before our referendum.

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  11. Some thugs stopped a young man in Belfast and asked what he was.
    He replied “Buddhist”.
    A short pause was followed by “A Catholic Buddhist or a Protestant Buddhist?”

    I understand the old fears but like everything else it’s time to let the evidence speak for itself. Let it go the majority are no longer interested in that baggage. Ministers and Priests on both sides of the horror that was the First World War each told the troops that God (I assume the same God?) was on their side.

    The Crusaders killed Muslims and French Cathars with the same willingness. Sunni versus Shia, Muslim versus Hindi, Muslim versus Jew. Etc etc

    The Romans only adopted Christianity in an attempt to unite the divided areas that formed the “Italian” area peninsula. The politics of Division is also used to Unite.

    Spain was under the Moors for several hundred years. Shall we return to being Picts?

    Anyway…..In another 100 years we will all be Sturgeon God worshipers in the TransCult.

    I have worked with colleagues of many faiths and none and found much less conflict than in Larkhall but a little less is transferred with every generation that passes

    If you hold a Saltire then we stand together.

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    1. Actually Clootie there’s some truth in your Belfast story about the protestant or catholic Buddhist.
      At the height of the troubles (mid 1970s) a group of Buddhist monks did come to Belfast to try and influence people towards non-violence but didn’t stay longer than a few months
      One of the several reasons they left – Belfast papers ran the story that they were stopped in a street controlled by Loyalist thugs with the dialogue you cited being reported as fact and confirmed by the monks

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  12. If you put yourself in a box and feel left out well you are going to feel left out regardless of what anyone else says. I personally see documents that are going to help us all and I am not of the religious mentioned in them however I don’t look at this as me being excluded. I look at this as a key for us to exit the union and I don’t care what the label is that gets us out as long as it does. After we exit then we can update our declaration if all agree. I am sure that in an independent Scotland that we want to move forward united.

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  13. Ben Madigan…I am not encouraging only one way to Independence, only the most straightforward and accessible one. I believe that we can become bogged down in trying to explain to average voters, with the cost of living on their minds etc, about arcane rights. I have supported the Claim of Right as part of asserting who we are. But the Treaty of Union breaches are the clearest examples for the man/woman in the street to grasp. I just don’t think that people realise the extent of ‘loyalism’ present in Scotland and its malign growth in direct opposition to our movement. It also encourages the other extreme element present that has been diminished in the past generation, but which can mobilise again very quickly.

    Clootie says’ the majority are no longer interested in that old baggage’. If only that were true. The majority may not be. But have you witnessed the mobilisation of the orange order/ Union Bears and Rangers F.C. constant Unionism? Are you aware of the’ Green Brigade’ as the counterpoint? These groups have caused serious disorder in our streets on their own.

    Anyway, I appear to be in a minority on this one. I genuinely hope that I am wrong.

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    1. There’s a counter answer to this. Look at all the people who were marching together before the lockdown and there was little trouble.. Look at all the people who want peace and our country to be a nation on the world stage and the people to thrive. I bet that you will find that there’s more of us than there’s not. And if we spend our time in fear of the few and not telling the people what was hidden from them then we would be as well just retreating like wee cowards who just say let’s not tell the people what was robbed from them because it might make people who don’t want to be free upset.

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    2. Lochside – I never, ever underestimate the potential havoc the Orange Order and associates could wreck on any attempt at liberation, whether in NI or Scotland.
      But we must not be intimidated by their bullying.
      if we want an Independent Scotland, we have to stand up to them and face them down, like the girls with the saltires in Glasgow on that dreadful night we lost IndyRef1.

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  14. (@Iain … as you know I follow what both Salvo and SSRG are doing. Given the importance that you and more particuarly Salvo will attach to their announcement I decided to refrain from adding any comment, and had maintained that position until latterly posts had been made about the Declaration of a Sovereign Scot initiative. I leave it entirely in your hands over moderation, but for the record – and primarly because of the relevance of today’s anniversary, -this post has appeared today in other social media).

    “The Declaration of an individual Sovereign Scot” initiative.

    For those who are unaware of this initiative, and the growing support and participation it is receiving from all across Scotland, a full record since it started in April 2021 can be found here:

    Amongst the explanations given on that page is why all signed Declarations have been and will continue to be lodged at the UN HQ in New York, lodged so that they are available to all 193 Members, and why it adopts “already established” international law as opposed to domestic law.

    Perhaps, mirroring our forbears, and the Declaration of Arbroath, it is our turn, in our time, to document our intention to regain the independence of Scotland – and not simply await permission to do so.

    The initiative is an open invitation to all Sovereign Scots who no longer agree to be denied their voice, and wish to do so by signing their name to their individual Declaration, with copies of each signed document being retained, for eventual compilation into one – “The Declarations of Sovereign Scots!”

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  15. I love their show, it’s one of my current favourites. Can you imagine if we had actual TV coverage, it would be a joy rather than the drivel that I don’t even bother to switch on to. I think that we have to stop and remember that although people have doubts, fears, feel left out and such, we forgot about the people who have spent their time and energy and efforts to help us all. Instead of looking at the positive it’s easy to pick off the things that we think are negative such as the wording of documents. However we are living under worse than a few words in documents that are going to free us all. So I for one am grateful to each and every person who have put their energy into helping us all. I am thankful for the people of the past who put these documents together for now and I have faith in us all to make our country something beautiful that we can all be happy and proud of, looking to be friends with other countries and for once be at peace with ourselves and therefore the world. Wee reminder if you are religious which I am not but give thanks and I will give you more. ♥️

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    The Claim of Right
    I do not see how the text may be construed other than the conservation by law of a privilege and a perceived entitlement, and the exclusion by law of those who disagree.
    I wish those involved with the project good fortune but there is a creature in the room they choose not to see.
    Personally, I see no future in the legalism thread in Scottish nationalism, it is rather last century in tenor, too much has occured internationally for «the law» to be treated with other than a degree of skepticism particularly when dealing with the global movers and shakers and their notions of entitlement.
    Scotland was a nation well before the legislation of 1560 fractured the «res publica»


  17. I am Catholic and 101 percent for independence and like Lochside I worry about the anti- Catholic sentiments in the Claim of Right as it might concern other Catholics to waver when the time comes to vote for independence. Wouldn’t it be better for Salvo to make a clear statement that in the constitution of an Independent Scotland no religion would have primacy. I feel this would go a long way in reassuring not only Catholics but voters of other religions and none.

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    1. I don’t wish Scotland to be ruled by any religion once independent just as we are free to be now. Celtic Christianity resides in Scotland tae which is free from state and includes nature. This whole religion thing just highlights that it’s not designed for peace and has been interpreted wrongly by individuals.

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    2. This should be emphasised so that there is no ambiguity that could be utilized by opponents. I was always surprised that before the lead up to the 2014 referendum there was resistance to independence. in some parts of the Catholic community. ( It seemed especially puzzling since, on the extreme Protestant side, namely the Orange Order supporters etc., there were those who shared their hostility to Scottish independence. It appeared like cognitive dissonance to have the same opinions on independence as the extremist Unionists who were undoubtedly and openly anti-Catholic.)

      However, as the campaign progressed and it was reiterated again and again that independence was about civic nationalism that had no truck with those who would cause division, helped no doubt by the overt aggression displayed by the Orange extremists to independence, it began to dawn on those Catholics that had reservations about independence that there was no threat to them from a new Scottish state and they began to desert support for the Union, the last redoubt of their religious opponents. Reassured by this, many Catholics voted for independence and voting statistics later showed that Catholics were actually more likely to have voted for independence than those who declared themselves to be Protestant.

      Before those fears can resurface it is important to make clear to Catholics, that the Claim is actually about establishing sovereignty and they should be reassured again that the religious politics of those times would have no bearing, or be considered acceptable in a modern Scottish state which would be secular, while protecting the equal rights of its citizens in a modern and progressive state. I know that those advocating using the Claim of Right have no intention of establishing any single religion over another but it does no harm to clarify this to those who are unsure since we can be sure that Unionist opponents will use any excuse to exploit any unintended ambiguity to cause uncertainty.

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      1. With the Protestant supremacy Scotland’s vision narrowed somewhat. An unhealthy obsession with England developed. England effectively reinforced the frail Protestant movement to its political advantage. Divided the country was also weakened. Knox, who spent most of his time among English puritan activists, even dithering over accepting a English church position, brought a preference for English language and attitudes with him on his return.
        I am puzzled as to why a document such as the Claim of Right, with its obvious bias, is being advanced as democratic when it appears to be concerned mainly with limiting the monarchs choice as to religion, anything but those damned Mass mumbling papists, and whose «insularity» effectively cleared the way for the 1707 sell out.
        Scots and lost causes…..


      2. ‘Scotland’s vision narrowed somewhat’ is a sweeping statement in the face of The Scottish Enlightenment.

        There is no ethnocentrism in civic nationalism.

        Genuine question: was the Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (‘Spanish Inquisition’) ever rescinded?


  18. Genuine question: what has the Spanish Inquisition got to do with Scotland’s independence?


    1. I would hope that they remain complete antonyms despite what conclusions may or may not be drawn from historical text to validate pedantry.

      Does a historical precedent exist for the revision of The Claim of Right? If, for instance the ‘Spanish Inquisition’ is extant, has it been invalidated by history?


  19. Those who keep trying to cast doubt and try sew seeds of division and worry people who are Catholic should listen to the show tonight by OccupyTweetStreet. Peter and Roger Anderson explain things that should dispel the people who are just repeating the same mantra hoping to whip up division.


  20. (Having trouble posting this – I’ll try it in three bits)

    I think that the reservations expressed by Ottomanboi, Lochside and others are worthy and important. Reassurance regarding these misgivings would surely be appreciated by all. Below, I make a very tentative exploration of the issues as I humbly understand them (and I most certainly am not setting myself up as any authority on these matters).

    The key document (online pdf) I refer to here is:

    ‘THE TREATY FIGHTS BACK: A ‘Forgotten’ Constitution, Scotland’s Claim of Right’ (Written by Sara Salyers with Foreword by Professor Alf Baird)

    Click to access The%20Treaty%20Bites%20Back.pdf

    The following summary is by Sara Salyers (page 32 pdf, page 19 print version) —
    “THE STORY OF THE CLAIM OF RIGHT– What Every Scot Should Know

    A written constitution

    The Claim of Right Act, passed in 1689 to legally depose James VII and II, affirms the existence of an enforceable, Scottish constitutional arrangement where the sovereignty of the people limits the power of government. It comprises two distinct elements:

    the action or effect of the statute in: deposing and replacing James VII and II, ensuring the continuation of a protestant monarchy, assuring the power of the Presbyterian Church in Scotland and excluding Catholics from any position of influence in Scottish society.
    the constitutional grounds on which this was legally justified

    Action and force have been overtaken by time and social change. The grounds on which the Act was passed, however, the limitation of governmental power and the right of the nation to enforce those limits, or popular sovereignty, represent a written and protected constitution.”
    Sara’s point “a)” above is the nub our problem. Sara’s mitigating sentence, ie “Action and force have been overtaken by time and social change” could very helpfully be expanded into a blog article.

    The key interpretive issue here would seem to be historical context. Point “a)” above was NOT written by someone giving vent to mindless religious bigotry and sectarianism. That would be an anachronistic reading. We are dealing with a judicious historical political document with precise political objectives. The key objective is to deliver Scotland from absolutist rule, ie from “ane arbitrary despotick power”, which at that time a Catholic monarch would embody. Therefore the safeguarding of Scottish democracy (our “lawes and liberties“) was of foremost concern.

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  21. Thus on reading the ‘THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTATES of the Kingdom of Scotland containing the Claim of Right and the offer of the Croune to the King and Queen of England’ (page 29 pdf, page 26 print version) we might usefully focus on abiding constitutional politics rather than religious manifestations of the day:
    “Therfor the Estates of the kingdom of Scotland Find and Declaire That King James the Seventh being a profest papist Did assume the Regall power and acted as king without ever takeing the oath required by law and hath by the advyce of Evill and wicked Counsellors Invaded the fundamentall Constitution of the Kingdome and altered it from a legall limited monarchy To ane arbitrary despotick power and hath Exercised the same to the subversione of the protestant religion and the violation of the lawes and liberties of the Kingdome inverting all the Ends of Government wherby he hath forfaulted the right to the Croune and the throne is become vacant.”
    Another assertion which needs to be read politically is the following. And let us remember here as comparison that the Church of England remains enmeshed with the Westminster Parliament, that every office-bearer in the Church of England, from archbishop to local vicar, swears allegience to the Crown as Supreme Head of the Church, and that the Queen/King appoints the bishops on the advice of the Prime Minister. In contrast, if the monarch currently attends the Church of Scotland he/she has but the status of “an ordinary person”. What is the political outcome here? Namely that in England Westminster claims sovereignty (with an obfuscating mystical nod to the monarch), while in Scotland the “ordinary” people claim sovereignty) —
    “That Prelacy and the superiority of any office in the Church above [lowly] presbyters is and hath been a great and insupportable greivance and trouble to this Nation and contrary to the Inclinationes of the generality of the people ever since the reformatione (they haveing reformed from popery by presbyters) and therfor ought to be abolished.”
    A couple of other items (still ringing bells) relating to political liberty are—
    “That the Imprisoning persones without expressing the reason therof and delaying to put them to tryall is contrary to law.”

    “That for redress of all greivances and for the amending strenthneing and preserveing of the lawes Parliaments ought to be frequently called and allowed to sit and the freedom of speech and debate secured to the members.”

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  22. Another helpful read is Sara Salyers’ ‘Commentary’ at the end of THE TREATY FIGHTS BACK: A ‘Forgotten’ Constitution, Scotland’s Claim of Right, (page 32 pdf, page 19 print version)

    Click to access The%20Treaty%20Bites%20Back.pdf

    “The communities of Scotland, (represented by election, by hereditary or traditional right), through the Convention of the Estates, declare the existence and force of a fundamental constitution in Scotland which legally limits the monarchy (government), prohibits the abuse of power or the violation of the laws and liberties (rights) of the people and imposes the penalty of forfeiture for breach of these conditions of power.

    The Convention asserts that James VII did:

    Overthrow the fundamental constitution of this kingdom and altered it from a legally limited government to an unaccountable, absolute power and in a public proclamation asserted the right to repeal and disable all laws and (p2) he exercised this power in violation of the laws and civil rights of the kingdom, reversing the whole purpose of government. By these acts, he forfeited the right to the Crown (to rule)

    Principles of the Claim of Right which remain applicable today include the following:

    The historic right of the people of Scotland to assert their sovereignty and their rights: ‘The said communities (of Scotland) assembled in a full and free representation of this nation do … as their ancestors in like cases have usually done for the vindicating and asserting of their rights and liberties…’
    2. The right of the people of Scotland to declare various acts of government unlawful including but not limited to:

    — any claim by government to an absolute power, or sovereignty, in Scotland

    — giving gifts or grants for the raising of money without parliamentary (or Convention)
    oversight (such as lucrative contracts to party donors)

    — imprisonment without charge or trial

    — granting personal protection (exemption) from civil debts (such as taxes)

    — interfering with/directing the legal process in order to attack political opponents

    — preventing protest or petition or criminalizing protestors or petitioners

    3. The prescribed penalty for, “the violation of the lawes and liberties of the Kingdome inverting all the Ends of Government”, that is forfeiture of power, or the right to govern.

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  23. Post’s enumeration problem clarification:

    ‘Sara’s point “a)” above is the nub our problem’ refers to:

    “the action or effect of the statute in: deposing and replacing James VII and II, ensuring the continuation of a protestant monarchy, assuring the power of the Presbyterian Church in Scotland and excluding Catholics from any position of influence in Scottish society. “


    1. A constitution that guaranteed religious freedom in independent Scotland should do the trick? Amending the Claim of Right prior to using to get outta here seems risky …


  24. Login registering is just not working. Says account exists, says username exists, then say username doesn’t exist, ditto with email address, ten says Captcha not input correctly. Seems there’s no way you can get registered on this site.

    Why? Cyber War?

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  25. Re Claim of Right, aside its keep papists out of government and civil society intent, it did through acceptance of a Dutch staunch Calvinist as monarch pave the way for a unitary state based on a shared Protestant worldview. A view the historian Linda Colley advances regarding the genesis of the British state.
    The personal union under James VI and his moving the court to London symbolically acknowledged that England not Scotland mattered more in the affair. He himself was no fan of the dour dominies who dominated his childhood and possibly releaved to get away. Nevertheless, the removal of the court, a significant political and existential focus in those times, patently weakened Scotland’s claim to be a distinct kingdom. To outsiders it looked like absorption of the smaller by the bigger state. The 17th century saw a major emigration of Scots to Europe, significantly to Sweden, Poland and Russia.
    Some historians suggest James VI was personally more inclined to tolerate Catholics, even making promises to Guido Fawkes and co to that effect. The religious climate in London being inclement for such a step, he reneged and the rest is the lighting of Bonfires.
    During the reign of James VII a minority of Edinburgh’s demographic may have been secret Catholics, some reconverts. Canongate kirk, with its cruciform architecture and altar, rather than pulpit, focussed interior design, to be subsequently reordered for preaching, may have been intended for non Church of Scotland, liturgical use.
    As we know, the victors write the official histories so the authentic and personal story is intuitive reconstruction. The recent utterance by a BBC employee regarding Catholics being «cleared out» suggests there is a triumphalist mindset yet functioning.
    As the incidents in Leicester attest it doesn’t take much for seemingly cold fires to be reignited, to order.


    1. Native Gaelic-speaker GEORGE BUCHANAN, from Killearn near Loch Lomond, was tutor to future James VI. His writings are highly relevant to the discussion on this thread. The following are quotes from the Wiki entry:

      George Buchanan (Scottish Gaelic: Seòras Bochanan; February 1506 – 28 September 1582) was a Scottish historian and humanist scholar. According to historian Keith Brown, Buchanan was “the most profound intellectual sixteenth century Scotland produced.” His ideology of resistance to royal usurpation gained widespread acceptance during the Scottish Reformation. Brown says the ease with which King James VII was deposed in 1689 shows the power of Buchananite ideas.

      In 1570, after the assassination of Moray, he was appointed one of the preceptors of the young king, and it was through his strict tuition that James VI acquired his scholarship. As the young king’s senior tutor, Buchanan subjected James to regular beatings but also instilled in him a lifelong passion for literature and learning. Buchanan sought to turn James into a God-fearing, Protestant king who accepted the limitations of monarchy, as outlined in his treatise De Jure Regni apud Scotos.

      His treatise De Jure Regni apud Scotos, published in 1579, discussed the doctrine that the source of all political power is the people, and that the king is bound by those conditions under which the supreme power was first committed to his hands, and that it is lawful to resist, even to punish, tyrants. The importance of Buchanan’s writings is shown by the suppression of his work by James VI and the British legislature in the century following their publication. It was condemned by act of parliament in 1584, and burned by the University of Oxford in 1664 and 1683.

      It was almost certainly during this last stay in France, where Protestantism was being repressed under King Henry II and his son Francis II, that Buchanan took the side of Calvinism.

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      1. “Consequently, for MAIR, a deep scar ran across the face of the island called Britain. To the north lay pastoral agriculture, darkness and barbarism. To the south lay a different agriculture, one practised by potentially independent farmers who, in appropriate circumstances, might possess the capacity to become political beings and whose exercise of military virtue could stabilize a united greater Britain. The history of greater Britain pointed to a more civic and even a more egalitarian world. But the peoples of the north were no part of it.”

        “‘I would rather choose to remain ignorant of the barbarous dialect of the ancient Britons, than unlearn that knowledge of the Latin tongue which I acquired, when a boy, with such great labour. I can perceive without regret, the gradual extinction of the ancient Scottish language, and cheerfully allow its harsh sounds to die away, and give place to the softer and more harmonious tones of Latin.’”

        “From the late twentieth-century perspective, it may seem refreshing that BUCHANAN is no modern romantic in quest of nation, ethnicity, or ‘soul’ – and that he insists on imagining the creation of political culture as a process of hybridization. That he stopped short at the threshold of the Gaelic world nevertheless offers insight into the scope and assumptions of his project, as well as into its problems and ambiguities.”

        Thanks Ottomanboi. A useful if rather discouraging read regarding troublesome downsides to the influence of John Mair and George Buchanan. I tend to look to philosophy for historical context, though of course it is never an excuse. Aristotle bequeathed a dualism to the medieval scholastic Europe these men largely inhabited. We can perhaps see this primarily in the “universals v particulars” reference, but also in the opposition of “rational civilisation” to “uncultivated barbarism” (the former applied to lowlanders and the South, and the latter of course applied to the Gaels and the North).


      2. Interestingly, for a more recent Scottish writer, Kenneth White, the shamanistic call of Northern climes was irresistible. Not that this brought him any closer to Gaelic it seems. White was famous in French before he got real recognition in Scotland even in English. White mocked the option of being “back in Old Caledonia, nursing my grievances, writing long political poems in the language of my ancestors”. That was indeed very near the bone. However, White signally failed to recognize (below) that his urging of Scots to escape from their current provincialist “hole” and to “mix with the world” is precisely what motivates the national independence movement. Also that the frustrating of that political aspiration is indeed a matter of deepest grief. Individualistic globe-trotting may be a solace, but never a national solution. In this excerpt from his enjoyable book (available in English), “LA ROUTE BLEUE”, White is in Montreal, on his way to Labrador:

        « Je me souviens», dit la devise du Québec.
        J’ai demandé à quelqu’un de quels souvenirs il s’agissait:
        « Du débarquement des Anglais. »
        Grand D**u! Qui se soucie encore des Anglais?
        Si je me préoccupais de ce qu’ils ont fait, les Anglais, je serais toujours là-haut, dans la Vieille Calédonie, à soigner mes griefs et à écrire de longs poèmes politiques dans la langue de mes ancêtres.
        Et merde! On ne peut pas rester écossais toute sa vie. Il faut savoir sortir de son trou, se mêler au monde.
        (Kenneth White, ‘La Route Bleue’, Grasset, Le Livre de Poche, 1983, p 15)


    2. it is the principle that the English constitution continued as the ‘unwritten british contitution and the Scots one disappeared. Everything we do politically is considered inferior in law to the English principle of the crown in parliament or parliamentary sovereingty. The existence of the claim of right gives us a chance to challenge that. What benefit is there in 2022 the Presbytarian Church of Scotland securing its power in 1689 when barely 5% of the population visit it on a Sunday? It is a red herring, an opporutnity to tar us with the bigot brush from 333 yrs ago when we can use it to break the deadlock in the heart and now?


      1. The Kirk and those who attend on Sunday isn’t «the problem» it is those with residual «religion» who use it to pursue sectarian division, the very thing Unionism is capable of exploiting when required. Offer a «hook» and it will be seized.
        A Catholic, whether Mass attending or not, looking at the text of the Claim would have some difficulty getting past the religious references.
        Be that as it may, the principle of accountability with reference to those in public office, regardless of «level» is at the heart of governance whether that be of kings, presidents, first ministers, local councillors or even popes.

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      2. Ottomanboi. These cringeworthy circus comedians might get the right of way wi the polis for petty political purposes but the rest of us consider them an embarrassment(including a reasonable proportion of the Rangers support). They might raffle their grannies to save the union. That would be it. They are muppets, a joke. The string pullers of the polis think we might fear these clowns, hence letting them run amok wi their union flags from time to time. We need to see beyond that. Mind when their beloved Rangers went down the tubes? What happened? What did they do? That’s rhetorical by the way because they did SFA. They relied on a couple of asset strippers and a 5 way agreement to salvage something for them. Those same asset strippers went on to rob them blind, all legally of course but you should get my meaning. its established power in Scotland as it is currently constituted that is our enemy or opponent at least.
        The declaration of Edinburgh invoking the claim of right used these words –
        ‘Therefore, to halt the eradication of our sovereignty, the abuse of our protected rights and the plunder of our territories and resources, and reaffirming our lawful authority, we echo the Irish Declaration of 1916:

        We declare the right of the people of Scotland to the ownership of Scotland and to the unfettered control of Scottish destinies, to be sovereign and indefeasible. The long usurpation of that right by a foreign government has not extinguished that right, nor can it ever be extinguished except by the destruction of the Scottish people.’

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        The «otherness» of Alba, barbarian tongue, alien dress and habit still viral in the Scottish mind. That «mi-rùn mòr nan gall» sticks its barbs into many a discourse on the «priorities».
        Mair/Major and Bochanan are creatures of their time in that regard. To critique their views on the matter from the age of the cell phone would be presumptuous. Not so the parochial «cultural prejudices» of our contemporaries.
        «Et merde! On ne peut pas rester écossais toute sa vie. Il faut savoir sortir de son trou, se mêler au monde.»
        Se mêler au monde sans racines, sans pays, sans langue, sans âme….
        Sont marrants ces gens-là!
        On the fogotten hero Douglas Young.

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  26. @ willie
    Try clearing your internet cache and try to log in again, it’s not guaranteed to work but it’s worked for me in the past

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    1. Aye, I read it, Graeme. It’s a good article. R McAlpine has a similar take in his latest article, quite funny in bits as well.

      You’ve got to laugh at the Sturgeon’s and Blackford’s of this world, eventually. We are in a bad place in many ways but we have been in worse places in our history. We are being deliberately kept apart from each other and our stories at the moment. That is a tactic of politics and media. We, genuine believers in justice, and rights for Scotland and its folk need to find a way of getting together in person more often and build from there.


  27. The Claim of Right says the people of Scotland are sovereign and we exercise that sovereignty by sending our representatives to Westminster just like the rest of the UK who made similar declarations in a different form.


  28. I’ve been wracking my wee brain for the last 30 minutes trying to find words to describe my thoughts on this statement by Sir Lyndsey Hoyle but I am utterly unable to

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    1. More important than…..The Nazi genocide, Armenian massacres, Iraq war, WW1, WW2….the list is potentially endless…what it is to live in that well populated world of Little Britain.
      VIVAT rex!!!!


  29. GM
    I do not dissent from any of your comments.
    Freedom means FREEDOM….an utterly shocking concept in our age of «safety».
    Time the reins of infantilization were discarded.


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