ANOTHER SNC STEERING GROUP MEMBER REVEALED.

Having pursued a career around Europe and North America from the late 80’s first as an Astrophysicist and then as a ‘Computer Specialist’,  Ivan Bishop , born in Dunoon – now lives on the Pacific Coast.

He put the ‘Act of Union’ online and operated the first anti “NewLabour” blogging web site in the early 90’s – notoryus.genmagic.com and now runs and publishes https://forscotland.com/new

Passionate about asserting Scotland’s “Internet Independence” , he lobbied ICANN to establish “.scot” in May of 1999 at the Berlin meeting.

He worked with Anne Campbell MP to get the Hansard online for Westminster and re-posted the online North America SNP newsletter for years.

Seeing Scotland re-establish it’s Independence has been a driving force in his life.The finish line for this goal is now approaching rapidly. 

14 thoughts on “ANOTHER SNC STEERING GROUP MEMBER REVEALED.

  1. Always impressed by how many Scots living and working abroad are still doing so much to further the cause of Independence for their Country. It is often far more than those elected to do that job at home!
    Thank You.

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  2. Thank you Mr. Bishop for your many endeavours to further Scotland’s profile around the world, and at home.

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  3. “And you thought history doesn’t matter”
    ———————
    Congratulations and welcome to Ivan Bishop. And appreciation for his all-too-valid Matrix analogy.

    A bit of history from my random reading today — it just happens to be about another “Bishop” involved in the ‘Convention of the Estates’ (forerunner of the Scottish National Congress), ie John Carswell (c.1522-1572). Carswell, who stood over 7 foot tall (his skeleton has been measured), was Superintendent of Argyll and Bishop of the Isles. He translated John Knox’s ‘Book of Common Order’ into Gaelic. The resultant ‘FOIRM NA N-URRNUIDHEADH’ became the first book in either Irish or Scottish to be printed (1567). The following is from the modern English Introduction by R. L. Thomson to his academic edition of Carswell’s translation (Scottish Gaelic Texts Society 1970):

    “[John Carswell] attended the [Scottish] Parliament held on 16 April 1567, and was elected one of the Lords of the Articles (‘Acts of the Parliament of Scotland’, II 545ff). On 20 April, four days before the publication of his book, he was one of the signatories to the extraordinary bond, signed by eleven temporal lords, including [the Earl of] Argyll, and seven spiritual lords, undertaking to promote the marriage between the Queen [Mary Queen of Scots] and [James Hepburn, Earl of] Bothwell. […] On 8 May 1568 at Hamilton he had signed the bond for the defence of Queen Mary after her escape from Lochleven, and on 28 July 1569 he attended the CONVENTION OF ESTATES held at Perth to consider certain proposals made by Lord Boyd on behalf of the Queen with regard to her return to Scotland (Keith, ‘History’, 467; ‘Register of the Privy Council of Scotland, II (1878) 2). On 30 July he voted against the divorce of the Queen from Bothwell (‘Register of the Privy Council of Scotland, II 8 ff). Thus, though he was minister of the Kirk, his political views were not such as would have commended themselves to Mr John Knox.” (pp lxxxiii, lxxxiv)

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    1. Carswell chose to use a form of classical Common Gaelic to make his translation as accessible as possible to the both Irish and Scottish readers:

      “ACHT ATA NI cheana, is mōr an leathtrom agas an uireasbhuidh atā riamh orainde, Gaoidhil Alban agas Eireand, tar an gcuid eile don domhan, gan ar gcanamhna Gaoidheilge do chur a gcló riamh mar atāid a gcanamhna agus a dteangtha féin a gcló ag gach uile chinēl dhaoine oile sa domhan; agas atā uireasbhuidh is mó iná gach uireasbhuidh oraind, gan an Bīobla naomhtha do bheith a gcló Gaoidheilge againd, mar tā sé a gcló Laidne agas Bhērla, agas in gach teangaidh eile o sin amach…” (p 10)

      I have always regretted that the 1981 ‘Gaelic Orthographic Conventions’ (GOC) recommendations turned down the option of spelling “agus” as “agas”, which, as we see above, has provenance in Carswell.

      And here also is a snatch of Scotland’s administrative language at the time, quoted by R. L. Thomson in his Intro:

      “In all this progress — myndfull of ye policie of ye Kirke — establishit ministreis and rederis at ilk paroche Kirk, appoynting yair stipendis to be leeviat wythin ye boundis of ye ministrie, having ye prayaris, ministratioun of ye sacramentis and forme of discipline after ye ordour of Genevay translatit out of Englis in ye Erische toung be Maister Jhone Carsuele lait beshoppe of the Ylis.” (‘Calendar of State Papers — Scotland’, V 34, 1 July 1574).” (lxxxvii)

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      1. As in life, so in language, people are inclined to seek «guidance» from pre established rules.
        Rules are simply guidelines based on a chosen set of users, the pro active creative will seek to bend them.
        Conformity is the enemy of invention. Both Scots and Gaelic might benefit from non conformism whether it be in orthography, pronunciation, lexis or style.
        The officialese you cite does manifest English influence ie ye, having, which may testify to the conscious anglicization brought about by the use the English translation of biblical text.
        Much of the «Scots» I have encountered, on for example, Wiki reads like English glossed with Scotticisms, not even in accord with the historic spelling, in effect Scottish English.
        In Gaelic the pidgin type words «saidheans», «baidhsagal» and «cidsin» provide a different slant on the language problem.
        Three hundred years of compromising with another’s cultural model leaves deep ruts.

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      2. Thanks for your comment, Ottomanboi.
        Carswell’s Gaelic was spelt irregularly throughout his translation, ie the same words would appear in different spellings within the book. It is almost terminally problematic to economically (never mind educationally) publish school textbooks without something approaching standardized orthography. The difficulty is shown in the small Frisian language which (though I am not up to date) was at one point having school books published in its three different dialects. I think Serbo-Croat back in the day published in both Roman and Cyrillic fonts. The Scottish Gaelic solution has been to have a standard orthography and syntax but with a degree of “elasticity” to accommodate regional variations in words, pronunciations, and (mainly) prepositions. I would have preferred the old “Gaelic-Script” system of using a dot above letters rather than “h”s. But that battle is long lost I guess. It would be easy enough now with computers, but when lead type was being used it was difficult to have to hand sufficient appropriate fonts. I have for instance a copy of Walter Scott’s ‘Talisman’ in Irish using the old typeface. I don’t know whether posting the title here will garble it, but with dots it is ‘An Ċloċ Órṫa’, while with “h”s it would be ‘An Chloch Ortha’. Gaelic text is significantly shortened when sound-modifying dots rather than “h”s are used.

        I agree that “baidhsagal” is a particularly ugly borrowing. And unnecessary, since there is already a perfectly serviceable, shorter, and more euphonic word — native to both Irish and Scottish — ie “rothar”. And many decades ago I saw a neat word for “motorcycle” used by Finlay J. MacDonald in a short story — “rothar-ola”. “Saidheans’ (adjective: “saidheansail”) is not really such a felicitous borrowing either, but I think it is embedded now for good or ill. (Irish has “eolaíocht”). I think “cidsin” (Irish “cistin”) is a perfectly harmless (now vintage) borrowing. Gaelic borrowed many words from Latin a millenium and a half ago – “leabhar” (“liber”), ‘sgrìobh” (“scribo”), “eaglais” (“ecclesia”) etc. Also a number of terms from Pictish. Also a great variety of marine terms from Norse. As for English, borrowing is presented as an enriching virtue (a view I endorse). Depending on the register of language in a given text the percentage of actual Anglo-Saxon rooted words could vary (so it seems) anywhere between 30% and 80%. English imperialism hoovered up diverse words globally to its benefit. The purism of Scottish Gaelic is a reactionary defence against being overwhelmed by this single almighty and all-pervasive top-dog language of the world.

        The English quote in my Carswell language comment above is dated 1574. The King James (Authorised) Version of the Bible wasn’t published till 1611. And it was no doubt basically using a standardized (and standardizing) version of the contemporary English of the day. The “ye” word would have been pronounced as “the”. See the following entry from etymonline dot com —

        ”YE (article): old or quaintly archaic way of writing the, in which the -y- is a 16c. graphic alteration of þ, an Old English character (generally called “thorn,” originally a Germanic rune; see th) that represented the -th- sound (as at the beginning of thorn). The characters for -y- and -þ- so closely resembled each other in Old English and early Middle English handwriting that a dot had to be added to the -y- to keep them distinct. In late 15c., early printers in English, whose types were founded on the continent, did not have a þ in their sets, so they substituted y as the letter that looked most like it when setting type. But in such usages it was not meant to be pronounced with any of the sounds associated with -y-, but still as “-th-.” Ye for the (and yt for that) continued in manuscripts through 18c. Revived 19c. as a deliberate antiquarianism; the Ye Olde _____ construction was being mocked by 1896.“

        Regards.

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  4. The latest one the Colonial masters are coming away with is money spent on Indy Ref2 by the Scottish government.
    How does the colonial masters work that one out ,this is Scottish taxpayers money spent on a democratic mandate given to the Scottish government by the Scottish electorate. While I think the SNP are a bunch of useless Unionists rats. I do ask where the Tories are their Red enablers think they have a mandate to tell us where that money should be spent . Personally I would be surprised if the SNP have spent anything. But How about 9 million pounds given by the SNP to keep the Media quiet , there is definitely a skeleton or two there for the Colonial administration of the SNP to worry about. Secrets which will shock when they come out .
    Dissolve the Union..

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  5. The longer we are held in this prison like union, the more I feel I can relate to the Palestinian cause.

    “Israel has turned to its global allies in desperation, urging them to help stop a Palestinian bid at the United Nations for an advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice on the Tel Aviv regime’s occupation of Palestinian territories.

    In a letter on Tuesday, Israeli prime minister, Yair Lapid, urged 50 heads of state, including those of the UK and France, to pressure the Palestinian Authority and prevent it from promoting a relevant resolution passed at the General Assembly in November, according to a report by Reuters.

    The resolution, approved by a UN committee, asks the ICJ to “urgently” weigh in on Israel’s “prolonged occupation, settlement and annexation of the Palestinian territory,” which it said were violating the Palestinian people’s right to self-determination.”

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  6. PLEASE SHARE, COPY AND PASTE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. WE NEED INDEPENDANCE 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
    Let us all pull together and stop the bickering.
    As life long Labour Party supporter and member i want to achieve independence at all costs.
    Whether you are
    #SNP #SALVO #CLAIMOFRIGHT #LIBERATION #ALBA #SARASALYERS #NICOLASTURGEON #ALEXSALMOND
    Whether it be
    #ALBA WITH #ALEXSALMOND #INDYREF2 BY THE #SNP or #SALVO

    WITH THE CLAIM OF RIGHT ……
    That in 1689 from before the union with England to sack the lot of them. The claim of right is still active today, They won’t be happy when we use the Claim but It’s that simple.
    Or
    #ALBA, there would have never have been any #Holyrood or #SNP LANDSIDE victory without the input and leadership of #ALEXSALMOND
    or
    #SNP,. Since the SNP came into government, every home in Scotland has benefitted from SNP policies.

    From free tuition, to record health funding and the Baby Box, we have taken bold steps to build a fairer, greener and more equal Scotland – despite the limited powers and budgets of devolution.

    Here’s 20 of their top achievements.

    1. Free Tuition. While students in England face tuition fees up to £27,750, Scottish students receive university tuition for free, and always will under the SNP.

    2. Record high health funding. We’ve invested over £16 billion in our health and care portfolio, with resource funding up by over 60% under the SNP.

    3. Care For All. We extended free personal and nursing care to everyone who needs it, regardless of age – and we’re now taking steps towards a transformative National Care Service.

    4. The Baby Box. We’re giving every baby born in Scotland the best start in life by providing the Baby Box for free, filled with essential items needed in the first six months of a child’s life. Other countries, like Ireland, have since followed Scotland’s footsteps.

    5. 1,140 hours of free, high-quality childcare. All eligible children now benefit from at least 1,140 hours of funded early learning and childcare, saving families around £4,500 per child per year – and we’re working to expand it even further.

    6. New social security system with 11 new benefits. After the limited devolution of welfare powers, we have built Social Security Scotland – the new social security system based on dignity and respect, treating social security as an investment in Scotland’s people.

    6. The Scottish Child Payment. One of the new benefits, the only one of its kind in the UK, has been called “game-changing” by charities and will help lift tens of thousands of children out of poverty. In 2022, we are doubling it to £20 a week per child – four times what campaigners originally called for.

    7. Free prescriptions. We have abolished NHS prescription charges in Scotland, which are now £9.35 per item south of the border.

    8. Free period products. Scotland was the first in the world to make sanitary products available to all those who need them, free of charge.

    9. NHS staffing at a record high. Since the SNP took office, there is 25,000 more doctors, nurses and other staff working in Scotland’s NHS, an increase of over 20%.

    10. Free bus travel. Over one million Scots already enjoy free bus travel across the country, including over-60s and disabled people – and we’ve now expanded it further to all young people under 22.

    11. Lowest student loan debt in the UK. On top of free tuition, students are entitled to up to a minimum income guarantee of £7,750, benefit from low interest rates for student loan repayments, leaving their studies with the lowest average student loan debt in the UK. Learners with care experience are entitled to a non-repayable bursary of £8,100.

    12. Free school meals for all children in P1-P3. We’re ensuring that no child goes hungry and helping family finances – saving families around £400 per child per year. And we’re going further – expanding to P4 and P5.

    13. Highest per-person number of GPs in the UK.

    14. 1,000 schools built or upgraded. In every part of the country, we’re ensuring that pupils and staff learn and work in well-designed, accessible and inclusive environments.

    15. Best performing core A&E services in the UK. In 2020/21, 90.2% patients in Scottish core A&Es waited 4 hours and under – compared to 74.3% in Wales and 71.3% in England.

    16. Free NHS dental care for under-26s. Scotland is the only part of the UK without dental fees for young people – and we’re scrapping fees for everyone by the end of this Parliament.

    17. Record high investment in education and skills. In the 2021/22 Budget alone, we’re investing £2.7 billion, including £125 million to help close the attainment gap.

    18. The Queensferry Crossing. We’ve delivered the £1.35 billion marvel on the Forth, under budget.

    19. Bridge tolls scrapped. Under the SNP, the Forth and Tay crossings are free from tolls – saving individual commuters around £3,000 to date.

    20. First government in the world to declare a climate emergency. Scotland has since been followed by 23 national governments and hundreds of councils in the UK.
    SO PLEASE ALL PULL TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF #SCOTLAND AND #INDEPEPDANCE

    SCOTLAND WILL BLOSOM AND BOOM AS AN INDEPENDENT NATION 🙂

    Ok, so I have seen a few posts looking for figures showing an iScotlands wealth, so based on figures we know about, rather than including estimated figures, from revenue streams that WM hide from Scottish Accounts.

    Enjoy:
    …………

    What we KNOW. (Based on last ‘normal’ year of accounts, 2019).

    INCOME

    £64bn : General Taxation (Income tax/NI)

    £10bn : VAT raised in Scotland.

    £7.5bn : Whisky revenues.

    £12bn : Oil revenues on per barrel taxation, there are a myriad of other oil taxation revenue streams, held in ‘extro-regio’ accounts, to hide the utterly huge scale of Oil revenues from Scots. £12bn MINIMUM.

    £5.5bn : Scottish Salmon and seafood industry.

    Total just from 5 revenue streams : £99bn.

    Money spent on Scotland by WM in 2019 : £48.5bn.

    OUTGOINGS

    £30bn : Holyrood budget.

    £3.5bn : Barnett Consequentials.

    £15bn : Reserved Aspects Spending by WM on our ‘behalf’ (common called the Scottish Subsidy🙄).

    £48.5bn in TOTAL Scotland expenditure by WM.

    SO, just based on 5 revenue aspects (all 5 sourced from WM figures btw, if you know how to read GERS, they trap themselves) we have a Scottish SURPLUS of a stonking £50.5bn/YEAR.

    These are not estimates, these figures ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

    WM RETAINED AT LEAST £50.5 billion of revenues raised in Scotland and DID NOT SPEND A SINGLE PENNY OF IT in or on, Scotland nor Scots.
    …….
    For reference, the Interest payments to service the current Uk debt liability, is currently around £51bn/year, let THAT sink in for a moment🤔)
    ………..

    Imagine an iScotland, where at a bare minimum, we would have the ability to DOUBLE absolutely every single budget in Scotland on absolutely EVERYTHING we spend today, INCLUDING on reserved matters.

    DOUBLE the NHS budget.

    DOUBLE the Education Budget.

    DOUBLE the councils budgets.

    DOUBLE EVERYTHING !!

    And we would STILL have revenues from our £1 TRILLION valued Financial sector, electricity surplus sales, SME business taxes, inheritence tax, corporation tax, inheritance tax, etc….and not forgetting that an iScotland’s economy, with fiscal levers and a fiscal bonanza already assured as shown above, would soar into a boomtime we have never seen before in Scotland, which increases our revenues exponentially ON TOP OF all of the above, inward investment, a return to the EU alone, would bring in hundreds of Billions of investment into an iScotland in the following years.

    We would have the HIGHEST fiscal ratings, and since we would be sitting on 2 MAJOR income guarantees:

    1. 50 years of oil and gas reserves worth £1.5trillion, minimum.

    2. We are sitting on £126bn of tax alone, on current whisky ‘reserves’ (already barrelled in bonded warehouses across Scotland) which will never go down, as every emptied barrel is quickly refilled.

    Oil gives us a steady flow of foreign currency reserves ($$) and the Whisky give us even more borrowing security.

    This, coupled with our highest fiscal rating, means an iScotlands borrowing costs would be the cheapest available, and at the best rates.

    So yeah, an iScotland will be just fine. 👍👍
    …………..

    The ACTUAL question is this:

    Where will WM find the money to replace lost Scottish revenues ?

    That £51bn debt interest payment has to be paid before anything else the uk spends money on.
    Imagine where a minimum of £51bn of cuts would come from, in an iEngland post indy !!

    WM’s fiscal rating would be trashed, without our oil and whisky guarantors, so borrowing would be much more expensive for WM.

    WM need scotland more than they will ever admit, no wonder democratic choice is not an option for them.

    Tic tock, indy is coming.

    #ClaimOfRight #SSRG #IndependenceisNormal
    #FreeScotland #thesilentclansman #salvo #liberation #YES #independence Inde-Car #Snp #scotlandforever #anythingbutthetories #alba
    #SaraSalyers #IainLawson #YoursForScotland #indecar #nicolasturgeon #jondanzig #ianblackford
    Nicola Sturgeon Ian Blackford Alex Salmond

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