YOU CAN VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE


Difficult to believe: party born to gain independence not campaigning for it in this election

Alba will put much independence backbone into the Scottish Parliament

Jim Sillars

Ian Blackford will have to await new instructions for what to say at the next PMQs. It is official. For the  governing party this election is not about independence. Who says?  Nicola Sturgeon, SNP leader and First Minister. Replying to a question about why she was dodging the economics of independence: ‘If I was asking people a week on Thursday to vote on the question of whether or not Scotland should be independent……..I am not.’ So what, for the SNP, is this election about?  Just   Nicola. Don’t believe me? Look at the ballot papers.

The SNP choosing not to fight an independence campaign,hitching itself to a seriously flawed economic policy which Nicola is either lying about not existing, or worse, ignorant ofits implications  (see below), make it imperative to get the maximum number of Alba MSPs into the Scottish Parliament, to put a parliamentary spine up the movement. 

The SNP, as presently constructed and led, is unfit for the task of advancing the cause of gaining sovereignty. Step forward spokesman Alyn Smith MP, stating that the SNP would ‘totally’ sign up to the euro as the price of re-entry to the EU.  That the SNP should declare such a supine negotiating stance is at a level of juvenile stupidity.  

What price in  sovereignty would  Scotland pay for this declared “euro  submission” economic policy? Surrendering it.  What marks Norway out (not in the EU) and Sweden (in  EU but not  the euro)  is that unlike the euro-membership states, they have their own currency, monetary policy and full fiscal policy.  Surrender control of those key economic levers and you cannot have an independent economic programme, because you don’t make the rules.  That is the lesson Italy, a much bigger country than ours, has learned. Greece discovered it earlier. 

Who were the economists who advised the SNP to adopt this policy?  Where are the papers setting out the analysis that would lead to such a decision?  Who was the skilled experienced negotiator who advised making such a foolish statement on such a fundamental, central, economic position?   We await their identities. A long wait, I suspect, because the Sturgeon/Alyn Smith euro position has all the hallmarks of policy made on the hoof. 

Let me remind you, that the SNP claims a membership of 100,000, among which there must be an abundance of talent and experience.  It has been the Scottish Government, with thousands of civil servants at its disposal. It has had 61 MSPs, and has 44.MPs. The latter with substantial research support in the House of Commons.  With all that in its favour, how is it possible for the SNP to stumble into the biggest and most important economic policy of all – joining the euro – without any consideration of its consequences?

Compare that with the Alba approach. The serious people’s approach. The tough pre-negotiating approach of declaring to the UK government that its debt is just that, it’s debt and its alone.  This isn’t policy on the hoof. The Alba paper, author Jim Walker, is a careful analysis of what is the UK debt, the issue of assets and liabilities, and why our negotiators must reject an independent Scotland being lumbered with a big share of Quantitative Easing (QE). Now, there’s a couple of words calculated to bamboozle the public.  QE debt is owed by the UK government to the Bank of England, which is owned by the UK government. Alice in wonderland stuff. In short, Alba is saying “the funny money is all yourswe’re not taking any share of it.” Read the Alba paper: intellectually sound. 

But there are other important comparisons between Alba and SNP which those with the second vote should consider. Brexit and the pandemic created a new paradigm in which Scotland now lives; and that calls for a new look at where we wish to locate ourselves in Europe – and Europe does not automatically mean the EU. It is a large part of that continent, but not the only part. 

Taking the SNP submissive approach to the EU on the basis of “let us in at any price you want us to pay” is not in Scotland’s national interest. We require a dual-policy: time to rebuild our economy to give us negotiation-strength, while at the same time gaining access to the EU single market, but in a way that gives us future options.   

That is the thought-out position of Alba on EFTA. First, even before independence, creating close relations with EFTA states in the Nordic Council by having the Scottish Parliament join it as an observer; building the case to join EFTA when independent, and then the EEA, and thus gain access to the EU single market; working on policy to make the “sterling transition” a short one as we create a Scottish currency and take full control of monetary policy, freeing up any constraints the sterling transition might have on our fiscal policy.  A grown up approach. And who in Alba is capable of such a policy development along with its membership?  Alex Salmond, economist, Jim Walker economist, George Kerevaneconomist. Critically important in the development of an economic policy pre-independence, is that Alba is not theclosed intellectual shop the SNP has become, but is open to others with the necessary expertise, as it has shown with its policies on education and housing. 

Here is a final question for supporters of independence with that second vote. If a general election for Scotland’s Parliament is not the time to urge people to cast their vote for independence, when is the time?   A question you need to ask the SNP.  One you don’t need to ask of Alba. 

MY COMMENT

Thanks to Jim for setting out in the clearest fashion the economic differences between the SNP and ALBA. Alba rejects the Growth Commission report and wants a Scottish currency quickly after Independence.

I am, as always

Yours for Scotland

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31 thoughts on “YOU CAN VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE

  1. Iain,The old firm even dropped in to help Lothians Alba today.We also have Hibs and Hearts for Indy setting up.I took calls fromStranraerNewtongrange starand Partick ThistleI said no thanks.🥳🥳Sent from my Galaxy

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  2. Jim Sillars is as incisive and insightful as ever.

    Jim Sillars was the architect over 30 years ago of the SNP’s ‘Independence in Europe’ stance. But, like all sensible people, when the facts change so do his thinking. Likewise Alex Salmond.

    We aren’t in the EU any more. We’ve had a pandemic. There’s been a financial crash and subsequent austerity (for over 10 years, on-going). The UK is continuously involved in foreign wars and adventures. Boris Johnson is PM. England has lurched toward the extreme right.

    Sticking rigidly with a section 30 approach to obtaining a referendum is another dead end. It wasn’t in 2012. But it is now. For all the same reasons.

    Everything has changed. And changed utterly ….

    … except for Nicola Sturgeon and acolytes like Alyn Smith, Angus Robertson and Stewart MacDonald. They are stuck in time, unable to walk and expel air at the same time.

    Negotiation is like a came of poker. You may have been dealt a set of cards that can form a Royal Flush or you may have a 10-high hand. But what matters is that you don’t ever show it (ALBA). Not unless you want to guarantee that you will lose or not win what you the cards in your hand merited (SNP).

    So make the smart decision on Thursday. Vote for logic, rationale, pragmatism and common sense. Vote for ALBA.

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      1. Gordon, in general I would still say the SNP, despite all my myriad misgivings, on the constituency. This, in my opinion, still gives the best chance this time around to get a fully committed Independentista ALBA candidate elected via the List. (However, please note that this is the last time in any election that I will vote for SNP whilst under the current leadership).

        If my SNP candidate on the constituency had been one with a trans agenda then I would have had more of a dilemma. However, for me it was relatively easy as my SNP candidate (for Edinburgh Southern):
        • formerly worked for Joanna Cherry and considers the latter her mentor
        • stood down on principle from the NEC after the list selection was gerrymandered by that body
        • stood in the equivalent WM seat in 2019 and knocked one-third off the winner’s majority
        • will make one less Unionist in the parliament if elected
        • only has to overturn a 2.9% British party majority from the 2016 election

        (The No 1 list candidate for Lothians is Kenny MacAskill so a no-brainer really).

        Hope that helps.

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  3. the sad thing is that Alba came too late to the party, had they had time to get their act together and stood on both the constituency and List vote I think they could have won power at Holyrood. people (even within the SNP) want a better party than the SNP under Nicola Sturgeon. Strange how the rhetoric of the BBC has changed from Nicola Sturgeon is going to win handsomely – to – It is hard to predict the makeup of the new Scottish Parliament, I think they have noticed the elephant in the room – Alba.

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  4. A “clean break” bottom line would also be in the strategic interest of Rump Yookay.
    Provided it wanted to ponce around the global stage as a Wee pretendy world power, with a seat on the UN Security Council, then it would have to accept the obligations of the successor state of the current UK.

    That includes the massive post Covid debt. That might be scant compensation for oil Revenues siphoned off to the London Exchequer over the past 50 years but is the best position Scotland realistically could be in.

    Financially, will there ever be a BETTER time to drive the independence agenda?

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  5. This is a real beaut. From a New Yorker interview St Nicola gave. For strong stomachs only:

    ‘I think my political opponents—I don’t know, maybe Alex himself … There was an element of ‘We can break her,’ you know? Almost kind of personally as well as politically. That was how it felt,’ Sturgeon told me.

    You can read the whole sickening story on The National’s website. If you had any doubts about her duplicity before…

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    1. The reality, as I’m sure you are aware Doug, is quite the opposite and that it was Nicola Sturgeon who used the full might of the British state – Civil Service, COPFS, Police Scotland and the anti-Scottish British media – in an effort to break Alex Salmond. Having failed, she then hid behind these organs of the state, only being exposed by intrepid and dogged genuine pro-Indy bloggers and investigators.

      It seems she now wants a hug for being such a nasty piece of work. It has all the hallmarks of a true latter-day fully signed-up member of the me-myself-I attention-seeking wokerati.

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    2. Archived version here

      https://archive.is/Uc03B

      By God she has some nerve. She was nearly broken? Imagine how she would have felt if she had been subject to an investigation that was “unfair, unlawful, and tainted with apparent bias”. Then had the details of a criminal proceeding leaked to a paper prior to charges being made (and before an interdict was issued) that could have resulted in imprisonment for the rest of her life. Then imagine she had to near bankrupt herself to fund a defence, was then cleared of ALL charges but had the msm and God help us FM of the country just repeatedly insinuate that she was guilty anyway. Imagine how broken that would have made her feel.

      ARGHHH!!!

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    3. I didn’t think my dislike of NS could get any worse, but after reading this I have no words. She is utterly contemptible!

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  6. Alyn Smith’s statement about signing up to the Euro is totally bonkers and surely this would need to be discussed and agreed at Conference and involve membership and more importantly with the people of Scotland!

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    1. I agree with ALBA’s decision to move towards the single market throughEFTA/EEA membership.

      Once that’s well bedded in, then a referendum on EU membership would seem appropriate for Scotland, which could be combined with a decision on joining the Euro.

      In any case, the other EU countries would also have to agree to accept Scotland into the Euro and would set out under what terms she would be admitted.

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  7. Its time for the Scots to grow a set of balls and start doing the right thing for Scotland. Sturgeon and her mob of British elite masquerading self appointed defenders of anything Scottish is no longer washing with the general public and there isn’t anything anyone can do apart from those zombies in the SNP. Until they waken up and see the light and stand up to this British imposter syndrome we may end up instead of protesting against the British state but actually protest against the SNP not allowing the Scots go to the polls and have a say on the constitutional question that is our given right when most of us have already voted in this election on the issue of a referendum. I make no apologies for being a cybernat and keybordwarrior.

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  8. How many times has she said the same thing: this election is not about independence? No, Nicola, it’s about keeping you in power to destroy Scotland. Good piece, Mr Sillars. How did we get here to a place where the Independence Party publicly tells the electorate it is not about independence? Another article in The National today about her popularity in Europe. Thatcher got the same accolades before she was brought down.

    Lorna Campbell

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  9. Excellent from Jim. I was always keen of EFTA as the EU prior to Brexit may well have sided with rUK and we’d outside the CFP. We absolutely MUST have our own currency and should not take one penny of the UK debt. We had no control over the spending made and the debt run up plus it will never be repaid as the UK basically owes it to itself.

    We can’t trust any UK government to negotiate in good faith and certainly not this one so let’s not give them any opportunity to veto or dictate onerous terms. I like what Jim Walker said – that as a goodwill gesture we should not seek reparations for the economic damage of Brexit! Westminster robbed us of an oil fund so they can whistle for a “solidarity payment”!

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  10. Postcolonial theory in the form of Frantz Fanon seems to indicate, to some extent, what is happening:

    “…having a national flag and the hope of an independent nation does not always tempt certain strata of the population to give up their interests or privileges. The militant who faces the colonialist….realizes that while he is breaking down colonial oppression he is building up automatically yet another system of exploitation. This discovery is unpleasant, bitter and sickening; and yet everything seemed so simple before: the bad people were on one side, and the good on the other. The clear, unreal, idyllic light of the beginning is followed by a semi-darkness that bewilders the senses….and they raise the cry of ‘Treason!’ (However) the treason is not national, it is social.”

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  11. All through the Indyref the cry was – you’ll be forced to use the Euro. How desperate must they be to throw this election for one of their ‘big guns’ Alyn the Odeous to declare that Scotland will adopt the Euro. In the end part of an election?

    I mean at his level they know the script, and they know the pitfalls. To make up Fundamental policy (potential vote losing policy at that) on the hoof at this late hour – ‘accidentally’!!! That’s not credible.

    And since when did he decide.

    They must be flapping. Me thinks the polls are a lot stronger for Alba than they would like. I’m not taking anything for granted, but I do find it encouraging.

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    1. “you’ll be forced to use the Euro”

      I have never understood why this is considered such an awful threat, a fate worse than death!

      Millions of people in the EU use the Euro. Since a traveller doesn’t need to change currency from one country to another, there are no banking charges for this and no worries about not having the “right” money. Banks cannot profit from rises and falls of one currency against another. Prices of goods all over the EU are easy to compare, facilitating trade, commerce and consumer choice.

      All this talk of “how horrible to have to use the Euro” seems like UK propaganda, so people don’t look to closely at the inconveniences and costs of using the £.

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  12. Oh Jim – now I see what Margot saw in you! Intellectually absolutely to the point – analysis with a rapier point.

    Thanks – inspirational!

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  13. One of Scotland’s elder statesmen his voice needs to be heeded by all Scots who value freedom. Perhaps our recognition as a colony of England might prove to be pour salvation through the UN.

    And Douglas Ross is a bit of a toerag who needs to be taken down a few pegs.

    Douglas Ross – I am my own man and I am not accountable to the people of Moray

    Ross and the EU Referendum

    Moray voted to remain in the European Union, albeit narrowly. The turnout was lower than is usual for the area. The “leave” campaign focussed their efforts on broadcasting a message that the European Fisheries policy would no longer be applicable to Scotland and all fish in Scottish waters would once more be landed at the ports of North East Scotland. A return to days of riches guaranteed.

    Voters in Buckie, Lossiemouth, Burghead, Hopeman, and Cullen succumbed to the lies of the Leave campaign and strongly backed leaving the union.

    But the residents of Findhorn turned out in strength and voted in favour of “Remain”, overturning the other majority.

    Describing himself as a “reluctant remainer” he said his agricultural background had led him to disapprove of the “red tape” imposed by Brussels, stating: “I didn’t campaign in the EU referendum at all. I was a lot less motivated to persuade people to back “remain” than for Scotland to stay part of the UK.

    I wasn’t convinced by the arguments to “leave” at that time, but I’m a democrat as well and I respect the view of the UK people. While I think there will be challenges to leaving the EU, I also think there are opportunities”. He professes to be a democrat and as such he intends to respect the view of the UK people. Note the play on words. But he is a Scottish MP representing the voters of the Moray constituency. His binding loyalty should be to those who sent him to Westminster.

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  14. I too read the New Yorker piece on Scottish independence and was appalled at the quotes given by Sturgeon whereby she says there was an element trying to break her, maybe even Alex himself.

    The woman is an out and out liar. A true Joesph Goebells. But that type of behaviour only lasts so long because ultimately she will drown in the excrement of her own making.

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    1. In fact, one has to enquire as to what lurks in Sturgeon’s own background.

      We know now how her legal career came to an early end after a 1998 law society investigation into her conduct as a solicitor. Well concealed for years, there are now rumours of injunctions.

      Could there be other things in her background that are hidden from public view and things that would reflect badly. Alex Salmond for his part has, despite what has been done to him, never ever attacked Nicola Sturgeon. He is I think to be commended for that because he has not stooped to that level. But Sturgeon has, and continues to mount personal attack after personal attack.

      And that is the difference. Salmond does policy, Sturgeon doesn’t. Salmond has a plan, takes advice, and follows through. Sturgeon by contrast the exact opposite.

      I know who I prefer, whose style of government I prefer, and whose standards and integrity of government I prefer.

      And this piece by Jim Sillars is a good piece reinforcing why Salmond and Alba will be good for the Scottish Parliament and Scotland.

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  15. AN Unionist, English vlogger questioned in November 2019 whether Nicola Sturgeon really wants independence. The section of the video to watch is 7:18 – 14:00.

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