Nationalise Clydeport

PE2029: Nationalise Clydeport to bring the ports and harbours on the river Clyde into public ownership

Submission by Dr. Alfred J. Baird to the Holyrood Petitions Committee

(Professor of Maritime Business, retired)

31 January 2024

Since the early 1980s, successive Tory Governments have sold off most major British ports, comprising extensive port land estates, cargo handling (i.e. terminal) activities, as well as portregulatory functions (i.e. the ‘port authorities’). In almost all other countries the state has generally retained ownership of port land and merely rents/concessions (i.e. ‘privatises’ with a small ‘p’) cargo handling operations and associated port services (towage etc.). This has enabled other countries to continue to plan and invest in new port capacity in line with the growing trade needs of the national economy. In most other countries the state has also retained the public port ‘authority’ in its statutory regulatory role (i.e. for licensing port works, issuing by-laws, ‘taxing’ ships and goods, and economic and safety regulation within estuarial areas); however, this is not the case in the UK where the new private port owners were also ‘given’ these important port regulatory functions (on dissolution of public port authorities at the time of privatisation). UK privatised ports have since been allowed (by statute) to more or less regulate themselves, and inevitably in their own interest.

Most of the privatised major UK ports (usually grouped by estuary) initially found their shares trading on the London Stock Exchange, quickly creating multi-millionaires out of former MBO (Management Buy Out) public port officials, also reflecting the fact that the City was able to more accurately value a port’s real worth far better than Government. Major UK ports have since been acquired by offshore registered private equity firms, and today the latter own virtually all major ports on Scotland’s three main central belt rivers and firths – Clyde, Forth and Tay – serving the international trading needs of most of the Scottish economy.

Offshore registered private equity firms have paid a high premium to acquire Scottish ports;however, this does not reflect the quality or extent of assets acquired, but rather the significant local and regional/estuarial monopoly power (and hence sustained profitability) that comes with ports. In any event, this high premium has to be repaid through port surpluses and this means port charges are high and must remain high, which in turn acts as a constraint on trade development in Scotland. Scotland’s major privatised ports are leveraged acquisitions which means the acquired ports carry a large debt burden (i.e. from loans facilitating their acquisition) that is ‘loaded’ onto their balance sheets. However, this is not debt used to invest in creating new port assets, it merely reflects the cash ‘borrowed’ by the equity fund ‘managers’ (or ‘financial engineers’) from ‘fund’ investors in order to acquire the port business. A key issue here is that the resultant high level of indebtedness implies there is very limited scope for the port to borrow further in order to invest in building major new port capacity. This suggests the private equity financial ‘model’ is unsustainable for any economy that seeks to expand trade and achieve economic growth, primarily because moving more trade (and hence generating economic growth) cannot be done without first providing additional new port capacity. Other concerns with the private equity model of ownership relate to the lack of transparency, in the sense that nobody aside from fund managers know who the fund investors are, or where the cash used to acquire the port has come from, plus offshore registration allows these firms to avoid paying tax in the host nation where surpluses are generated.

In comparison with other European nations, Scotland’s port-trade position appears poor and under-developed. Indeed, the modest trade volumes flowing through Scotland’s major container ports today (i.e. Grangemouth and Greenock combined) are more or less at the same level as that of Iceland’s major port, Reykjavik, which handles 250,000 teu (twenty-foot equivalent containers) a year. Thus, Scotland’s ‘major’ ports sector is comparable to Iceland in terms of total unitised cargo volume, despite the fact that Iceland’s population is just one twentieth of Scotland’s. Freight traffic moving through Irish ports amounts to over three million freight units a year, some ten times greater than the international traffic moving via Scotland’s major ports, and volumes shipped through Flanders ports are even higher, in excess of ten million teu/year.

Holyrood’s Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee previously noted that investment has simply not occurred in Scotland’s major ports for at least the past 30 years. Spending on renewing port equipment is not considered enough. Scotland needs new, advanced seaport capacity to better serve today’s ships and to help expand and facilitate trade in order to grow the economy. Public expenditure on Ireland’s major ports over the last 30 years exceeds £3bn, aided in part by EU funding. Completely new marine terminals have been developed downstream from the old/obsolete port areas at Dublin and Belfast, providing the capability to handle ever larger ships and greater trade and passenger volumes. Port investment in Sweden, Norway, Denmark and especially Flanders is also in the many €billions over the past 30 years, during which time the needs of shipping and the logistics role of ports has been transformed. Scotland appears, by comparison, a poor relation, having to make do with obsolete port infrastructure, most of it dating from Victorian times. This means Scotland’s major ports are nowhere near internationally competitive, and the meagre trade volumes currently moving through our major ports compared with other nations, in addition to declining overall trade values, reflects this reality.

Because Scotland’s major privatised ports are inadequate, outdated, and expensive, Scotland therefore attracts relatively few international shipping services, which means much of our international trade is ‘leaked’ via ports in England, from where more frequent shipping connections can be accessed. However, this alternative routing should not be viewed as positive or in any way as a sustainable long-term solution for the Scottish economy. Scottish trade that is currently more or less forced to access international markets by land via remote UK ports faces the very significant added burden of higher land transport costs, as well as costs from congestion and delays (e.g. on the Channel routes, plus road congestion throughout much of England, and rail capacity constraints). It may cost as much to send a container by road/rail from Glasgow to Southampton as it does to ship the same container by sea from Europe to Asia. This costly dependence on access via remote ports in England not only ensures Scotland’s lack of competitiveness, it acts as a constraint to further development of new Scottish trade. Using routes via ports in England therefore negatively affects the competitiveness of existing trade, and inhibits development of new trade flows that could be generated if the Scottish economy benefitted from direct access to international markets via advanced, low-cost ports in Scotland and related shipping services. 

Existing UK inland logistics arrangements, whereby most international imports to Scotland initially enter the UK via ports and then Regional Distribution Centres (RDC) in England, and are then moved north by road/rail as domestic movements, serves to add further costs to Scotland’s transport account. This is another reason why it is important to provide advanced,cost competitive ports in Scotland, offering frequent international shipping connections to help redirect much of this import traffic so that it might better access Scotland directly by sea from the continent. As well as helping to reduce transport costs, this would also provide related logistics/added value jobs at RDC’s in Scotland (rather than south of the border as is currently the case).

A key objective of any port regulator (i.e. port authority and/or national government agency) is to prevent the interception of economic rents by particular interest groups. Major ports tend to be natural local/regional monopolies, so the interests of users and the wider economy (i.e. producers and consumers) must be protected accordingly. However, the UK port privatisation ‘experiment’ has had the opposite effect in that successive port owners, and today the offshore private equity firms, have enjoyed an unhindered veritable feast as far as the interception of economic rents are concerned. The price paid for this regulatory ‘negligence’ on behalf of the state is what we see today, i.e. a lack of port investment, constrained trade development, and weak (if any) economic growth.

The numerous, generally unrestricted and often archaic range of port charges (e.g. ship dues, cargo dues, conservancy fees, pilotage, towage etc.) still levied by private port ‘authorities’ on ships and cargo unfortunate enough to enter Scotland’s outdated harbours equate to a ‘private’ tax on trade. The higher these port charges are, and research has shown them to be higher than other European ports, then the more likely it is that trade will fall, or that trade will simply not move at all. Industrial production is mobile and today easily shifts location, as Scotland knows only too well, whilst new trade is simply not facilitated. A government that ignores its seaports in this way, as is evidently the case in Scotland, also ignores its trade, and hence ignores a very significant part (if not the most significant part) of its economy.

By disposing of major ports and disregarding their important regulatory functions, the UK(and Scottish) government has effectively withdrawn from the ports economy, with the result that the economy now depends on the ‘market’ (or rather, offshore private equity firms) to provide new port capacity as and when required. This presumption fails on a number of counts, not least the very long-term nature of port investment relative to the short-term nature of ‘the market’; private equity funds have a maximum timescale of typically between 4-8 years, whereas a port’s economic life has a much longer time horizon of well beyond 30 years. Ports depend on long-term financing for new infrastructure. Moreover, the private equity modus operandi is to acquire mature, profitable port businesses; it is not intended or designed to build new ports. In a largely self-regulated port market like the UK, private port owners also have an incentive to restrict capacity because this has the effect of maintaining port charges at a high level; however, the consequence of this is congestion, which hinders trade growth and also constrains economic growth.

As an illustration, if cargo volumes are growing at an average of between 6%-8% per annum at a given port (reflecting GDP growth just under half this level), the port in question will need to double its handling capacity every ten years. However, when port capacity is constrained, economic growth will likewise be constrained. Ultimately, it is entirely irresponsible for any state to depend on speculative private equity funds to assume the responsibility for ensuring a country’s new port capacity is provided in a timely fashion (i.e.new port capacity is required well in advance of trade growth). The state itself has to be far more pro-active in the port economy, as is the global norm.

The specific port privatisation model adopted in the UK (and nowhere else) has therefore resulted in very limited investment in the creation of new international port capacity in Scotland over the past 30 years. In the UK as a whole, only a handful of major new port projects have been taken forward during this period, albeit these were mainly promoted by specialist international port operators, not private equity funds, and are in the few estuarial areas where public port authorities were retained (i.e. Thames/London Gateway and Haven/Felixstowe). One significant UK international port project taken forward by private equity owners, a new £300m quay at Liverpool, was delayed for a number of years until a capacity crisis point was reached, and the project only proceeded after significant public resources were committed by the UK government and the EU towards dredging costs, with over half the development costs being long-term financed by the European Investment Bank (EIB). The latter project was managed (and part financed) on behalf of Guernsey registeredport owner Peel Ports/Deutsch Asset Management by another private equity outfit, Lend Lease. 

However, the absence of any major investment in new international port capacity in Scotland by private equity port owners, and the impact this has on trade and economic growth, remain of major concern. The high debt burden that UK private equity owned ports continually carry on their balance sheets as a consequence of leveraged transactions, and the need to use any profits to pay interest on this debt (and ‘fund management’ fees), means these ports are severely limited in their ability to finance major investments in new infrastructure. Reflecting this reality, the private equity owners of Scotland’s major ports on the Forth, Clyde and Tay, have no current or envisaged plans for any significant investments in new port infrastructure; essentially, 

The evidence therefore suggests that the prevailing UK port ‘policy’ over the past thirty years whereby international port provision has been left more or less entirely to ‘the market’ (i.e. to offshore private equity firms/leveraged acquisitions) has been and continues to be something of a catastrophe for Scotland’s international trading position, which is now particularly weak in comparison with other similar sized countries in northern Europe. The lack of investment in new international port capacity and in shipping connections has undoubtedly held back economic growth. This will have had a negative knock-on effect on employment throughout the Scottish economy, not least in manufacturing, and further suggests that Scotland is simply no longer internationally competitive, evidenced not only by a worsening and constrained export position, but also by limited successes in terms of inward investment; firms will simply not locate in nations that lack modern ports and sophisticated shipping connections serving key markets.

Scotland’s major central belt seaports today are debt-ridden, profit-maximising, self-regulating, estuarial monopolies owned by tax-avoiding offshore registered private equity outfits, locked into a financial (i.e. debt-ridden) ‘model’ which effectively hinders new port investment and modernisation. This has left Scotland offering mostly obsolete port infrastructure to an increasingly technologically advanced global shipping industry, the inevitable consequence of which has been a serious barrier to trade and a block on economic growth.

There are clearly several very good reasons for ensuring that proper consideration is afforded by any national government to critical aspects influencing trade development, such as port investment, port capacity, port modernisation, and port regulation. Public port authorities, like any public authority, were created as public entities for a purpose. To dissolve these public authorities was a negligent act, and the last thing any state should do is hand over maritime regulatory powers and key national port capacity and investment decisions to private port monopolies, yet that is effectively what the UK has done with its major ports. Scotland’s economy has paid, and is still paying, a heavy price for this policy blunder, which should be rectified as a matter of urgency.

It can therefore be argued that the failure of the present Scottish ‘port market’ to provide new international port capacity is one of the main reasons, if not the principal reason behind Scotland’s poor and worsening trade performance. No economy can sensibly depend on the offshore private equity model of port ownership and regulation to bring about trade growth; by its very nature, the private equity model actually limits investment in new port infrastructure, whilst continually demanding excessive profits, followed eventually by selling-on of what are ‘mature’ port assets to another ‘fund’ to do precisely the same thing over again. Ultimately, there comes a time when the nation’s port assets are so obsolete and trade is so diminished that this model is completely unstuck; given Scotland’s moribund trade position that time seems ever closer.

On this basis I would urge the Committee to support this petition to return the Clyde port authority into public ownership. I would also urge the same in respect of the Forth and Tay ports authorities.

Note on Alf Baird: began his working career in the 1970s as a Shipping Clerk at the port of Leith. After a degree in Business Studies at Napier University in Edinburgh in 1993, he was employed there first as a researcher and then as lecturer, completing his PhD on strategic management in the global container shipping industry in 1999. He was appointed Director of the Maritime Research Group at Napier in 1997, and in 2005 was appointed Professor of Maritime Transport, subsequently Professor of Maritime Business. He has been appointed as specialist advisor on maritime transport matters for a number of select committees of Parliaments in the UK, Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man, and as advisor to various government agencies and ports including the European Commission, Scottish Enterprise, Highlands & Islands Enterprise, Clydeport, and Orkney Islands Council. 

MY COMMENTS

Alf Baird is a committed expert on these matters. The Scottish Government would do well to give his advice a fair hearing. They must wish they had done so over the ferries. If they had, a replacement fleet, a much more effective and competitive fleet, would have been in place saving the taxpayer literally hundreds of millions of pounds.

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55 thoughts on “Nationalise Clydeport

  1. Yet another example of how Scotland is poorly served by the union with England. Thanks to Alf and Iain for bringing this pernicious situation to our attention.

    We need to find a way out urgently.

    #End the Union

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  2. This is a link to the Petition and its progress:

    https://www.parliament.scot/get-involved/petitions/view-petitions/pe2029-nationalise-clydeport-to-bring-the-ports-and-harbours-on-the-river-clyde

    If you use it – click on this: Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee Consideration – and you will find all the various responses as it progresses.

    (@Alf – great work – next time we bump into each other let’s have a chat – I have an idea for you to consider)

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  3. “Alf Baird is a committed expert on these matters. The Scottish Government would do well to give his advice a fair hearing. They must wish they had done so over the ferries. If they had, a replacement fleet, a much more effective and competitive fleet, would have been in place saving the taxpayer literally hundreds of millions of pounds.”

    The old tax payer money myth again. Dearie me.

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    1. If you prefer then

      saving money in the cash limited block grant which therefore could have been spent more wisely on other priorities rather than wasted on ferries that aren’t operational yet plus having a fleet that is!

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  4. I wonder what the neoliberal judge in a neoliberal court in EFTA will have to say about ? The EFTA surveillance authority.

    They hate state aid and love competition in the belief it brings down prices and makes things cheaper.

    It is a strange belief since no fully sovereign government that issues it’s own currency needs to make a profit or earn the money that it issues. Ports could be free to use like the NHS if in government hands and it doesn’t get any cheaper than that. One look at any privatisation from Royal Mail to energy shows everything becomes more expensive and not cheaper as the public are lied to. Glasgow airport being another fine example how this ideology works in reverse.

    Norway has been pulled up by the EFTA surveillance authority by introducing various types of state aid into its maritime transport infrastructure. I suppose instead of being an independent sovereign nation state, which writes a manifesto and wins an election, in a First passed the post parliament. Thus, gets to implement that manifesto. We could stand in a neoliberal foreign court instead and ask politely what they think we should do

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    1. The involvement of the EFTA court and the EFTA SA are a consequence of Norway being a party to the EEA agreement, and those two institutions being part of the EU requirements for the operation of the Single Market.

      If a country was a member of EFTA but not party to the EEA agreement, the there would be no way for those two organs to involve themselves.

      (Basically to some extent those two organs are misnamed, as they’re for the for the correct running if the SM by the EFTA members of the SM)

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  5. Thank you for posting. Another excellent read. Scotland is being penalised under the present system and another example of the leaching by private equity/offshore firms which diminish all our daily lives.

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  6. I have little doubt that this just another long-term strategy to further impoverish Scotland to ensure that we have to rely on English infrastructure to export our goods. Cheaper to buy up Clydeport and leave it dormant than have it in competition with ports south of the border.

    There is of course another possible scenario. As Westminster is more and more fearful of the Scottish independence that England cannot afford, why build new port facilities for us to use after independence?

    England has a long history of protectionism and prior to the union they passed several Navigation Acts and of course the Aliens Act, all of which, in conjunction with their complicity in the destruction of the Darien Scheme, helped prepared the ground for the union.

    Now, in collaboration with what masquerades as a “Scottish Government” they are introducing freeports that benefit only the massive corporations involved and at least 90% of Scots have no idea what these freeports are really intended to do. In fact, I would guess that a similar percentage have never heard of them because the government and local authorities are keeping this very quiet.

    If the freeports are as good as they tell us, there would be frequent articles in the press and TV programmes filling our screens every few days with all the benefits that Scotland is reaping from these freeports as part of this ‘voluntary and equal union’.

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    1. Quite right and do not forget the one eyed tv screen in every house.
      Is nationalisation not a reserved matter?
      If so and no matter how accurate Alf’s statement IT WILL HAVE NO EFFECT on the profiteers.
      Who benefits from this dreadful situation?
      Our country is having the life sucked out of it like a marrowbone in a dogs jaws!!!

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  7. My husband, Ian, was a marine engineer, we owned ship management company. Ian gave a presentation at the motorway of the sea conference in Orkney in 2005 which I believe Alf Baird had some involvement in. Alf is undoubtedly a maritime expert and the Scottish Government would do well to take heed of his advice.

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    1. Unfortunately the Scottish Government is either deaf or suffers from selective hearing. They ignored

      Stuart Ballantyne and his generous offer – didn’t even acknowledge his letter , which apart from showing bad manners also showed their arrogant stupidity.

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      1. It was crass stupidity and now many are glad they are paying the adverse political cost for so doing. The old adage you can’t help folk who refuse to help themselves rings true..

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    2. Yes NellieB, I well remember Ian and yours excellent work managing the 10+ large freight ferries running between Turkey and Italy for UN RoRo, the latter company since acquired by DFDS. A great example of a ‘Motorway of the Sea’ in action which shifted millions of tonnes of freight from road to sea; prior to UN RoRo much of the freight was sent by road via former Yogoslavia as I recall.

      https://www.dfds.com/en/about/media/news/leading-turkish-freight-ferry-company-un-roro-is-now-part-of-dfds

      As you know, efforts were made to operate a similar Motorway of the Sea service between Scotland and the continent (Rosyth-Zeebrugge), but lack of government support and high port charges levied by the private port authority on the Forth plus lack of port capacity put an end to that.

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  8. Alf Baird presents a strong argument for the return to public ownership of Scotland’s seaports.

    Without investment charges will remain high, infrastructure will further degrade, trade will continue to suffer with knock-on negative linkage effects to Scotland’s wider economy.

    As with the ferries, however, I do not expect a positive response from the Scottish Government since it is not a proposal that they have come up with and their defensive, bloody-minded, dog in a manger attitude will in all likelihood lead to them rejecting the arguments or ignoring them all together.

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  9. Any layperson would immediately identify a huge problem for any economy in terms of unnecessary additional costs and time, when its manufactured goods, intended for export, are forced to use ports remote in extremus from their point of manufacture. That foreign investors are allowed to capitalise as a result of such an obviously dumb arrangement, speaks volumes regarding the basic inability of this current administration to govern in any structured or strategical manner. Alf was 100% correct about the ferries-folly and he is likewise correct regarding Scotland’s hobbled ports.

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  10. I’m going to ask the daft wee lassie question – is Clydeport within the appalling Green (sic) Freeport areas?

    Because if not, it would indeed be nice to have some of Scotland under our control and taxation system!

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  11. Excellent piece, Alf. I believe that all our utilities and public service industries should be returned to state ownership. I am on the left, but I am neither a Socialist nor a Communist, and do not hold with ideology, not even nationalist ideology because none of these things requires ideology to proclaim its sense and rightness. Having them out of private hands and into the people’s hands makes perfect sense, and is a pragmatic solution to the absolute pig’s ear that has been made, by the private sector, of almost, if not, all, public service industries since Thatcher.  On the other hand, lots of other businesses and industries will work better in private hands. A mixed economy has been proven to be the most efficient, but we are heading for a totally privatized economy that will crash and fall because profits and dividends, greed, in other words, outstrip common decency and shares for all. No great revelation: human beings can be vile towards those less fortunate, and ‘divil tak the hinmaist’ only goes so far before it hits a wall. That includes both domestic and foreign investment which takes no account of the future or the lives of those it touches, but thrives only on endless speculative enterprises that harm the majority. It is not a bleeding heart philosophy either: it is pure utilitarianism at work – sooner or later, people who are kept down deliberately and kept from their own cultural, political and economic roots and ties will revolt.

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      1. ill treatment since 1707 and have acquiesced like a good little Colony should. Let me know when the revolt starts and I’ll be there.

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      2. No, not deluded. I’m not saying it is possible right now, jistjr, or even in the near future, but it is how it should be. To privatize everything never made any sense except to those who would benefit. The wider population were always going to be the losers. Privatization of everything does not work any more than nationalization of everything. 

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      3. If not now WHEN?
        The corporations are running the show.
        I don’t advocate privatisation of everything but the essentials of life should be under the populations control not controlled by profiteers

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      4. Start as we mean to go on, surely? Alf’s idea is a very good one. Of course the corporations are running the show because we have let them; and, more to the point, our politicians court them. They make political policy and when they say, jump, the politicians ask, how high? I agree that our lives should not be ruled by profiteers, but none of the mainstream parties, including the SNP, and, incidentally, the Greens, intend to do anything to change things. If we want change, we are going to have to do it ourselves by demanding it. We could start with a campaign to show how Westminster intends to nationalize the debts of the English and Welsh water companies – well the English ones, anyway, because the Welsh have no say and have their water resources drained away as we do our energy resources. People need to understand what is happening right across the board with the privatized utilities with lack of investment, profiteering, shareholder dividends and CEO and Board salaries and bonuses – despite the fact that privatisation means going to the wall if you do not run a company/corporation properly. Nationalization of private debts started with the banks and has been on-going since then. The speculators should be put in jail.

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      5. Oh aye like the Bankers who we bailed out and jailed how many? Were they not private ltd companies?
        “start as you mean to go on surely?”
        From where?
        Stockholm syndrome has well and truly taken hold in this Nation

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      6. jistjr: I did not say that they jailed the bankers. Of course they didn’t. They should have done. Your negativity is debilitating. Why don’t you offer suggestions? We cannot turn back the clock, but we can do things differently in the future and we will have a future only if we take our independence. There really is little that can be done with devolution. The SNP knows all this. So why does to continue to foot-drag? Perhaps we really will have to hit rock bottom before we drag ourselves back up and have the courage to take what should be ours?

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  12. This is yet another issue that there is a commonsense and do-able solution to BUT the SNP won’t do it. Why not?

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  13. “In Scotland it is TAXPAYER money unfortunately. Because we dont have our own Central Bank and Currency.”

    Nope that is schoolboy error and one look at the government accounts clarifies the issue.

    The Scottish consolidated fund doesn’t really exist – not in the way that the Northern Irish one does. As ever it’s a Gordon Brown illusion.

    Section 64(8) of the Scotland Act 1998 states “The Fund shall be held with the Paymaster General”, which essentially means that it is just a departmental budget account like the one DEFRA uses and which is held, these days, with the Government Banking Service.

    Similarly section 64(2) states “The Secretary of State shall from time to time make payments into the Scottish Consolidated Fund out of money provided by Parliament of such amounts as he may determine.” – which means that Scotland only has access to funding that the Secretary of State has specifically allocated to the Scottish Parliament.

    Strictly speaking Scottish Ministers only have the right to set a Scottish income tax rate, but any income that is raised goes into the UK Consolidated Fund – as required by the Exchequer and Audit
    Departments Act 1866.

    Other receipts Scotland collects have to be transferred to the Scottish Consolidated Fund, and Treasury can ‘designate’ those receipts – requiring them to be paid back to the UK Exchequer.

    Which means Scotland runs much like the BBC. The BBC is actually funded by a grant-in-aid, but also has a job to collect tax on behalf of the UK government. The Scottish parliament is much the same, except that the Scottish parliament can increase and decrease the taxation a
    bit.

    The agreement at present is that HMRC essentially guesses what the amount of Scottish income tax has been collected, tells HM Treasury and HM Treasury then marks up the Scottish Consolidated Fund with that amount to cover what is known under the Fiscal Framework as ‘assigned taxes’.

    Scottish government spending leaks out of Scotland into England -because of the trade deficit with England. The Barnett formula puts that back, and the requirement for a quasi balanced budget in Scotland ensures that circulation can’t get too far out of whack.

    So what have we learned by studying the government accounts?

    1. ALL income tax collected in Scotland ends up in the UK consolidated fund not the Scottish Consolidated fund . Where it is destroyed as the UK consolidated gets reset to zero every night of the week.

      2. Any other tax receipts do end up in the Scottish Consolidated Fund but again HM Treasury can ‘designate’ those receipts – requiring them to be paid back to the UK Exchequer.

    So why do they guess when the UK government marks up the Scottish Consolidated Fund ? Why is it at the Secetary of States discretion ?

    Because tax collection in Scotland can’t be measured. As both Scottish government spending and taxes collected from that spending flows across borders into the rest of the UK.

    If you give somebody £100, they spend it which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £80 as income. They then spend that £80 which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £64 as income. And so on until the entire £100 disappears and creates £100 of extra tax. All without changing the tax rate one single percent

    The result is lots of extra sales and income for people down the spending chain they wouldn’t otherwise have received. It’s a straightforward geometric progression.

    So if a Nurse goes to Blackpool on a hen night or a Policeman goes to Wales for the rugby their spending is someone else’s income at that income is taxed in England or Wales and doesn’t show up in the Scottish Consolidated fund. That tax collected from Scottish government spending is lost forever.

    Government spending spending as an impulse that decays over time as people spend their earnings, earn what others have paid and spend it again, like a stone skipping across a pond.

    The stone is government spending using freshly created money. Each skip is a tax point, which reduces the size of the next spending hop until the stone finally sinks, consumed by the ripples of taxation. The higher the tax, the rougher the stone, the bigger the ripple and the fewer the hops before it sinks. These ripples of taxation happen in Wales and England as the Nurse and Policeman spends.

    The only tax collected in Scotland is when the policeman and Nurse pay the initial tax from their wages and that ends up in the UK consolidated fund where it is destroyed.

    All the other ripples of taxation that happen in England and Wales also end up in the UK consolidated fund where they are destroyed.

    So how much tax collected from actual Scottish government spending can’t be measured. So they guess when the Secetary of state tpps up the Scottish consolidated fund.

    Where does that money come from ?

    An index finger and a computer keyboard and has absolutely nothing to do with taxes that can’t be measured. As section 64(2) states “The Secretary of State shall from time to time make payments into the Scottish Consolidated Fund out of money provided by Parliament of such amounts as he may determine.” – which means that Scotland only has access to funding that the Secretary of State has specifically allocated to the Scottish Parliament. It is created from thin air.

    After being at this for so long this is something crucial the Indy movement should understand.

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    1. Thanks

      This is a very clear explanation of how the finances work. I particularly like the skipping stone analogy. It also clearly blows Thatchers perfidious lie ‘Governments have no money your taxes pay for everything’ out of the water.

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      1. You are very welcome Duncan.

        That’s why I am here to share what I have learned over the years. My own personal view is that the Indy movement should have been shouting this from the rooftops so everyone knows.

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      1. Similar situation for myself andy, perhaps more so! What is perhaps more difficult to comprehend is that I don’t for one minute believe Derek Henry has sole copyright on this critically important understanding of how government at treasury level works.

        Why has no one from within the SNP sought to bring this to the attention of the electorate and damn the lies purported as fiscal fact by Westminster, endorsed by successive administrations at Holyrood.

        Johann Lamont mibbaes wisnae sae faur aff the mark when she telt us; Scotland wis too wee, too puir an’ too stupit!!

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  14. There is absolutely NO accounting that exists that allows taxes that go into the UK Consolidated fund to be respent back into the economy. Scottish income tax all ends up in the UK consolidated fund – period.

    Why would there be ?

    Taxes take money out of the economy to be destroyed for inflation purposes so that it never seen again.

    If you give somebody £100, they spend it which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £80 as income. They then spend that £80 which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £64 as income. And so on until the entire £100 disappears and creates £100 of extra tax. All without changing the tax rate one single percent

    The result is lots of extra sales and income for people down the spending chain they wouldn’t otherwise have received. It’s a straightforward geometric progression. By the time the taxes are collected because your spending is someone else’s income and vice versa. The money has served its purpose.

    Government spending is always with created money. All of it all the time. Taxes are NEVER collected and then respent. There is no HUGE shed on the Isle Of Skye that holds our taxes for future use.

    I challenge anybody to.prove me wrong by using the actual assets and liabilities and balance sheets of the actual government accounts to do so. Good luck you will be there forever trying to find it.

    Taxes collected ALWAYS match the government spending eventually It’s a straightforward geometric progression. Then they are destroyed.

    VAT and other types receipts do end up in the Scottish Consolidated fund. Where they can be spent but again HM Treasury can ‘designate’ those receipts – requiring them to be paid back to the UK Exchequer to be destroyed.

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  15. If you give somebody £100, they spend it which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £80 as income. They then spend that £80 which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £64 as income. And so on until the entire £100 disappears and creates £100 of extra tax. All without changing the tax rate one single percent.

    Now give them £500.

    Now give them £1,000

    What happens ?

    If you crank up the printing press , you crank up the shredding machine ( taxes) at the same time. It’s obvious and common sense yes/ No ?

    That leads to another very important insight and that is

    Structural Deficits Are Deflationary ! and not inflationary as neoliberalism says it is.

    “If, for example, extra money is printed and used to fund a higher budget deficit so government spending is higher for the same amount of taxes, that will tend to boost demand and drive the price level higher. It is inflationary.”

    That is 100% and 180 degrees wrong and a complete myth.

    If government spending is higher for the same amount of taxes and thereby leaves a higher budget deficit, that will tend to decrease demand and drive the price level lower. It is deflationary

    Unless, when the government spends, it overpays for what it is purchasing – including giving the money away for free or indexing a payment.

    THE BELIEF

    There is a belief in the mainstream that deficit spending is inflationary and that a structural deficit will change the price level upwards.

    In contrast, the part of government spending matched by an increase in tax raised will not affect the price level.

    This is backwards. There is far more inflationary pressure from government spending that causes an increase in taxes than from deficit spending.

    THE TRUTH

    Government spending as an impulse that decays over time as people spend their earnings, earn what others have paid and spend it again, like a stone skipping across a pond. Your spending is someone else’s income and vice versa and that income is taxed.

    The stone is government spending using freshly created money every time without exception. Each skip is a tax point, which reduces the size of the next spending hop until the stone finally sinks, consumed by the ripples of taxation. The higher the tax, the rougher the stone, the bigger the ripple and the fewer the hops before it sinks.

    This process is what government spending matched by taxation looks like – a whole load of additional transactions that may or may not be inflationary.

    The overall price impact will depend upon multiple institutional and structural factors. Any programme design needs to take these into account.

    However, the critical point from the stone-skipping analogy is that you always get ripples. Those ripples are the percentage-based transactional taxes functioning as an automatic stabiliser.

    When the government buys things, you will get an increase in taxation because the government purchases things like a consumer rather than a business. There is no scope to offset or reclaim tax.

    A Public Sector Worker Example

    Consider a pay rise for civil servants of £1500

    For many, this would attract 20% income tax, 12% National Insurance, 9% student loan repayment and a 5.45% pension contribution, reducing the net payment to the individual to £803.25. On top of that, the department would pay 13.8% Employer’s National Insurance. The Civil Service Pension Scheme would mark up their liabilities by 71% of the pay (offset by the 5.45% employee contribution).

    Overall the amount requested from Parliament would be £2690.25, of which £803.25 (29.8%) would end up in the hands of the civil servant, £822 (30.5%) would end up as tax, and £1065 (39.7%) would be allocated to ‘Pension liability’ in the pension scheme.

    Those are the numbers, so let’s flesh out the quote with them.

    £2690.25 of extra money is ‘printed’, creating an initial budget deficit of £2690.25 by accounting identity. £1065 is requested by the pension scheme, and £1625 by the employing department. £803.25 is paid to the individual and £822 to HMRC via the usual 1866 Act s15(3) mechanism.

    We now have a budget deficit of £1868.25. To get back to the ‘same amount of taxes’, we must stop £822 of tax from being collected from the non-government sector. That would mean suppressing demand – more saving and less spending – which is deflationary.

    A Public Sector supplier Example:

    Let’s say the government purchases more seats at their outsourced payroll supplier, for which the bill totals £1500.

    Suppliers charge 20% VAT on services, making the VAT-inclusive charge £1800.

    Government requests £1800 from Parliament to settle the bill. Treasury creates the £1800 via the 1866 Act s15(3) process, automatically creating a £1800 budget deficit by accounting identity. The supplier receives all the money and accounts for VAT to HMRC in the usual way, reducing the budget deficit, and therefore the quantity of deficit spending, to £1500.

    Further down the line, the supplier will pay tax on any extra employee hours needed to deliver the increased service. If they don’t need additional hours, taxes become due on the increased profit. Both of these would reduce the quantity of deficit spending further.

    Again, getting back to the ‘same amount of taxes’ would mean suppressing demand, which is deflationary.

    A net cash example :

    Now you might argue that is cheating, even though that is how the government accounts for its activities. Instead, we should discount the internal government shuffling, including the VAT cover for their private sector suppliers, and consider the strict net cash position.

    As we saw in the public sector worker example, we create £803.25 of new money via the 1866 s15(3) process and pay it to the individual’s bank account. That leaves a net budget deficit of £803.25 and no additional taxation.

    But look what happens when we ‘boost demand’.

    Let’s say the individual purchases an item that has been sitting on a shelf for a while. Immediately that incurs 20% VAT – increasing taxes and reducing the deficit by £160.65.

    Or we could raise the price level by outbidding somebody in an eBay auction. An item that would have sold for £200 now sells for £250. But as the taxation auto-stabilisers kick in, the same problem arises. The extra £50 is taxed at 20%, increasing taxes and reducing the deficit by £10. If the person outbid spends elsewhere, further tax would arise, reducing the deficit again.

    No matter what we demand, we create taxation ripples that reduce the deficit. Boosting demand always boosts taxation revenue, and eliminates an amount of deficit spending.

    For taxes to ‘stay the same’, all the individual can do is leave the money in the bank. The stone cannot be allowed to bounce. Net additional spending cannot happen.

    Even here, when, in the traditional manner of economists, we have made the inconvenient truths ’exogenous’, deficit spending is inflation neutral.

    Switching to the endogenous money view and abandoning the mythical market for loanable funds fundamentally alters how we view budget deficits.

    Deficit spending means the government got what it wanted at the prescribed price, and those outbid just banked the cash or paid off a loan.

    Some may dismiss this as a ‘Treasury View’, but that is backward. In the Treasury View, crowding out of money comes first. That can’t happen in an endogenous system.

    In the Deficit Spending View, deficit spending ‘crowds out’ in the physical sphere first, and those crowded out decide not to buy anything else. If they had consumed further, more tax would materialise. That would reduce the amount of deficit spending and increase the amount of tax-matched spending.

    When the government decides to increase its purchases, it’s not the ‘deficit spending’ or the ‘structural deficit’ we should worry about.

    The inflation risk lies elsewhere – in the spending taxed to destruction over many transactional hops.

    Tax payer not net is a myth get over it.

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  16. If you give somebody £100, they spend it which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £80 as income. They then spend that £80 which is taxed at 20%, leaving the next person with £64 as income. And so on until the entire £100 disappears and creates £100 of extra tax. All without changing the tax rate one single percent

    If that Somebody is a Scottish nurse on a hen night in Blackpool or a Scottish Policeman in Wales for the rugby then it is impossible to calculate the taxes collected from the original Scottish government spending when they paid the Nurse and the policeman.

    Not only has Scottish government spending flowed across borders but the tax collection from that spending has also.

    So no taxes fund nothing and never have. The Scottish Consolidated Fund is topped to by newly created money each and everytime. By figures created by the Barnett formula and at the Scottish Secretary discretion. They guess which means they can starve us of funds.

    Now give them £500 and then £1000 and what happens.

    When you crank up the printing press you crank up the shredder ( taxes) at the same time. It’s a straightforward geometric progression.

    THE ONLY way to measure how many taxes has been collected from the government spending is if you have your own sovereign currency. As it does not flow across borders as it has to be exchanged ( fx) and can be measured.

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  17. What I would really like to know from Alf is the following

    1. What are we going to do with these ports when we fix them using our own sovereign currency and an index finger and a computer keyboard. Make them free to use after nationalising them ?

    When In any national economy there is the pile of stuff you can make yourself, then there is the stuff you can get from somewhere else which makes your pile bigger (imports), and after that there is the amount of stuff you have to give to somewhere else which makes your pile smaller (exports).

    When People who say – If you make exporting more difficult you will eventually make importing more expensive as foreign reserves are depleted and borrowing foreign currency gets more expensive (and or the new Scottish currency devaluates).” When That’s fixed exchange rate thinking. Bretton Woods ended in 1971.

    2. Politically are the ports going to be left wing ports with some controls added when needed. Or right wing neocolonial, neoliberalism on steroids ports that export our way to growth ? Or are we not letting on and still ” all under one banner ” ?

    Considering The purpose of international trade is to gain as many physical imports as possible for as FEW physical exports as possible. That, along with full domestic employment, is how you maximise a nation’s standard of living.

    3. Once we have fixed the ports by nationalising them.

    Are we going to stand in front of a neoliberal judge in a neoliberal EFTA court who will decide how we can use these nationalised ports. Like the Judges in the EFTA court did with Norway under the EFTA surveillance act under the transport protocols ?

    Or

    On day 1 are we going to implement a First passed the post parliament. State politically years before what we are going to do with them with a very clear trade policy. So that the winners can implement their manifesto. Not get stuck with horse trading in a proportional representation neoliberal, globalist quagmire ?

    That’s what I would like to know. So that I know if I am voting for an independent sovereign nation state or a neoliberal fudge with all the traps. As the article didn’t really highlight what you have planned after you have nationalised them ?

    Any inclination of what you think our trade policy should be and what independence would look like would be very helpful Alf.

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    1. Port infrastructure on the Forth, Clyde and Tay is outdated and obsolete. I alluded to the port concession model that is widely used, even in China. In this approach the state plans and provides the basic infrastructure for new ports – quays, breakwaters if needed, channels, access road/rail; and the private terminal operator via tender competition provides the superstructure – cranes, yard equipment, systems etc. The operator takes a long lease over the facility, repaying the state. The state owns the port and is in charge of regulation, i.e. the port authority function. The operator is obliged to handle trade at agreed levels, taking into account growth, and pricing levels. This way the nation gets modern competitive facilities when it wants it, it gets an experienced operator with the right capabilities, and it retains overall control and ownership of the port.

      What to do with obsolete port areas/docklands? The normal approach the last 40 years is to develop these more in an urban context, a concept that became known worldwide as ‘waterfront revitalisation’. Leith Docks and upstream Clyde, and Dundee for example could have been used to create thousands of affordable houses and business areas. Instead the PE owners tend to develop expensive residential properties and leave the rest of the estate derelict until the ‘market’ picks up. This has created enormous pressure to develop greenfield land for needed housing such as around Edinburgh, and Glasgow.

      In addition the massive opportunity for river transit/riverbus systems has been ignored in Scotland by the private port authorities and councils. This also needs to be remedied, and is an opportunity to help facilitate further development along the length of navigable rivers such as Forth, Clyde and Tay. Most waterfront cities globally have fast river ferry transport systems integrated into the local and regional public transport network, serving commuters and visitors.

      None of this is difficult elsewhere.

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      1. I know that it’s stating the obvious, but we (I) thought that with an SNP government that at last opportunities would be taken, and decisions made, solely for the benefit of Scotland and our people – 74 and just as niave and gullible as I was in my teens.

        300+ years of deliberate impoverishment and underdevelopment and just when things should have finally changed in our favour, the SNP rebrands to the Party for Continued Devolution. 9 years ago with 56 MPs I thought I would be proved wrong and live to see Independence Day. I may still do so but it will not be because of anything that a political party does and my hopes, and the hopes of many, now rest with Salvo / Liberation.

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  18. THE other crucial reason why it is so important to know what our trade policy is going to be and what we plan to do with these Ports when we fix them, is Scotland’s sectoral balances. Scotland’s sectoral accounts.

    THE figures are so bad that Common Weal have been on a crusade over many years with the Office of National Statistics ( ONS). To try and find out what Scotland’s sectoral balances are. Nobody has collected the data so nobody really knows what the true figures are.

    So what are the Sectoral Balances ?

    Economists divide economies into three sectors:

    1. The private sector (domestic households and businesses, including financial institutions).
    2. The government sector (the issuer of the currency which adds and removes £s as it invests into the economy and taxes back out).
    3. The foreign sector or Rest of the World (the countries with which a nation trades).

    Starting with the basic rules of accounting for every financial asset there is an equal and offsetting financial liability, this means that deficits and surpluses must always cancel out across the financial system.  If the private sector is in surplus, then by the rules of accounting, the government sector must be equally in deficit.

    The ONS produces the UK figures on a quarterly basis here

    https://new-wayland.com/blog/uk-sectoral-balances/

    If the government always runs a balanced budget, with its spending always equal to its tax revenue, the private sector’s net financial wealth will be zero. If the government runs continuous budget surpluses (spending is less than tax receipts), the private sector’s net financial wealth must be negative. In other words, the private sector will be indebted to the public sector.’

    It is impossible for the government sector and the private sector to run surpluses at the same time. If the government deficit provides the private sector surplus then implications for the economy should be clear. When we add in the third sector (Rest of the World) it can be seen that the three sectors always have to balance overall. In other words, the ‘important accounting principle that the sum of deficits run by one or more sectors has to equal the surpluses run by the other sector(s)’. Therefore, surpluses and deficits will always add up to zero. As such, in a graphic representation, it will be easy to see that they balance identically as a mirror image. As seen in the ONS data above.

    So in layman’s terms the external sector wants to net save and house holds and businesses want to net save so the government must always be in deficit. Provide the currency and spend more than its income so the other 2 sectors can net save.

    So what happens if we change the external sector ( our trade balance ) What happens to the private sector balance and the government balance sheet?

    Neoliberalism 101 says we should slash the government balance via austerity measures and instead of running budget deficits we should run government budget surpluses and run huge trade surpluses to compensate

    Like Norway’s sectoral balances here

    https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=2418

    Norway’s performance is atypical, since it is by definition impossible for all nations to run trade surpluses, particularly of Norway’s magnitude.

    We have no idea what Scotland’s sectoral balances are because of the data and what sacrifices would have to be made to increase our trade balance. Choose to base the use of our skills and real resources on exports and world demand. What if world demand drops and we end up in recession. If your currency becomes too strong and kills some of your exports. So where are the goods we no longer can sell to the importer going to go in a world where overall export growth is fundamentally limited by the increase in world income? 

    Considering The purpose of international trade is to gain as many physical imports as possible for as FEW physical exports as possible. That, along with full domestic employment, is how you maximise a nation’s standard of living.

    Considering Export-led nations have to constantly provide liquidity into the rest of the world to allow others to buy their goods. Otherwise the rest of the world runs out of the particular money that is needed for the export transaction to complete and the export never happens.

    So its a bit like borrowing from a bank. If you import a little then the exporters own you. If you import a lot then you own the exporters – because they then have nowhere else to go.

    The shift to manufacturing in the 3rd world has generated a huge export overhang with the West. They need to export to the West or their economies collapse. And that is one of the reasons why the Western currencies have remained valuable – because the Eastern countries are forced to run up huge stockpiles of the stuff to enable their economies to work.

    And that will continue until they realise they are being had, eliminate the export overhang and move to domestic consumption. 

    Japan is moving away from the exporting your way to growth model and China is moving to a more domestic consumption model.

    No country has an automatic right to import any more than it exports. The corollary to that is that no country has an automatic right to export more than it imports. It has to buy that right – either by stockpiling foreign financial assets or by convincing a bunch of dumb countries into a monetary union so that it can export its unemployment to them.

    There has been far too much focus on the wrong side of the balance sheet – the bit that Scotland can’t control, exports and foreign inward investment. That is backward. We need to focus on easing imports and conducting outward investment – the bit we can control. The natural feedback mechanism from that will then automatically rectify the other side.

    Producing for domestic consumption, and imports are what improve the standard of living for Scottish residents. Not pass through. Not ‘export led growth’.

    The needs of the country are not the needs of the exporter. That’s why we left the EU, which favoured UK exporters over UK workers. Scotland can control domestic consumption via fiscal policy and get all the foreign direct investment and imports we need by introducing a job guarentee and a new bill of rights. Choose not to be slaves to world demand and or our exchange rate.

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  19. All of our current problems have a common theme. The lack of control…..or more accurately the lack of willingness to take control.

    The SNP follow the same path a those Unionist Parties who went before. They accept that Westminster is dominant. They accept the rules established by Westminster. They obey the tramlines they are told define their powers.

    Nothing will change until you say NO!

    Ghandi showed the way…..Civil disobedience. I refuse your Law. I will walk to the sea and make my own Salt.

    Westminster has been strengthened significant by simply say NO! and nothing happened. It was meekly accepted. They know that the SG is going to obey their rules. They know that the SG will accept their Courts. The know that a Vichy Scottish Government is servile and obedient.

    Until we change that every topic will end in a deadend.

    The New FM of the North of Ireland stated that a Border Poll will take place in the next Ten Years.

    Westminster screamed “no appetite at the moment”, “No indication that has support”, “It is up to the Sec. of State to decide”. Does anyone think the rhetoric used on Scotland will hold back the Unification of Ireland?

    They need to believe we mean it. They had no doubt of our intent in 2014. However they have looked at the NUSNP and laughed as they called the bluff.

    We need to remove the treacherous SNP troughers, boycott Westminster and start some serious civil disobedience and do it soon.

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    1. Amen to that.

      We are nowhere near ready for day 1 of independence.

      We want to play at “all under one banner” and neoliberalism fudge games and are so desperate to give our sovereignty away as soon as we have won it for ourselves.

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  20. What is happening in Scotland at the moment is to ensure we never gain true Independence. Below the wise words of James Connolly

    “If you remove the English Army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle., unless you set about the organization of the Socialist
    Republic your efforts will be in vain. England will still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our
    martyrs”
    ~ JAMES CONNOLLY

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  21. Alf,

    I wonder if you be interested in attending this conference in Leeds.

    https://gimms.org.uk/2024/01/25/uk-mmt-conference/

    Ideally we would like people outside economics like the nuclear/wind people, medical groups and other policy groups for day 3 of the conference. Have a discussion about how to cost their proposals in a functional finance way rather than a neoliberal way.

    Nationalising Clydeport and the ideas you have would make a fabulous discussion on day 3 of the conference.

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