OBJECTIVE INDY

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OBJECTIVE INDY

By

Sally Hughes

I read with interest today, your article from Independence Campaigner – Bill Clark.  I wonder if I might have the right of reply.

Scotland and the UK stand at a unique political crossroads.  As described in Jim Sillars recent contribution, Britain’s power base, its economy, its traditional civic institutes, have never been (in my lifetime) more threadbare, deliberately mismanaged, and for those reasons, dangerous.

For Scotland, with support for Independence consistently hovering round 50%, the times are even more dangerous.  Look to the hills, out to sea, and you will see Wind Turbines going up everywhere…. Look to the high street, and the Industrial Estates and you will see businesses and shops closing just as fast.

As most supporters of Independence know, Scotland is an energy producing POWER HOUSE…. And now, more than ever, the cash cow that keeps the British Establishment in swagger.

They cannot afford to lose Scotland.  And Scotland, all of her citizens, from all corners of the political spectrum, cannot afford to underestimate them.

Political Parties can, and have done great things.  There is strength in numbers, in resources, in research, in fundraising and activists.  But none of them own the Independence movement, none of them have a monopoly.

They also have, by their very construct, some pretty big weaknesses.  It’s well documented what happened to the Labour Party… the dark arts deployed, to destroy it from within.

I wish I could tell you such a thing would never happen to any Independence Party… but I cannot.  We are none of us bullet proof.

On a more mundane level, I recall to you the story of the working party, set up to produce something…. By the time all the compromises were met, everyone was able to agree… unanimous….  100%…  the thing they produced, didn’t work, and everyone hated it.

I cannot speak for the inner workings of any Political Party, but I can highlight one of the weaknesses they all share…. For those on the NEC, where breaches of constitution may have happened… by leadership… they cannot discuss that with members (it would be unprofessional and cause the party damage), they cannot discuss that at NEC if that is where the problem originated and was driven, and they cannot discuss it at National Conference in any real, professional manner due to the nature of the forum.

I attended my first National Conference 2 years ago (really not my thing).  The opinion I formed then, with its 5-minute slots of proposals, counter-proposals, remit-back, signature proposals, and apple pie proposals… was it was no way to form policy, and was really just a dog and pony show to try and get the attention of the top table.

So here is where I stand.  I believe Scotland must utilise this general election to fight for Independence at the highest volume.  I hear wise heads saying, use it as a platform, concentrate on local issues, aim for 2026 and Holyrood and the list seat…. Blah, blah, blah.

NO.  

If you don’t stand and mean it NOW, you won’t mean it in 2026 either…. And the electorate will know.

The crisis is now.  The fight starts now.

As for political parties… it is really, really tempting to want to sort them, fix them, return them to the straight and narrow.  Perhaps in other times that would be the right thing to do.

Scotland doesn’t have that time… and I don’t have that energy.  

I have one voice, one focus.  To fight for Independence with all strength and guile I can muster.

My name is Sally Hughes, I’m an Independent Independence candidate for this year’s General Election.  I’m standing in Perth and Kinross-shire Constituency.  My boots are on and I’m going to fight.  I’m putting the issue of Independence right back in the heart of the ballot box here.

In an Independent Scotland we can put the heating back on.  Let’s get this done.

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Sally has posted on my blog before but this is her first contribution since she announced her decision to stand as an Independent For Indy candidate in the forthcoming General Election. She has already had an impact, her comment “in an Independent Scotland we can put the heating back on” has been quoted back to me from many quarters in the last week. Go Sally!

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31 thoughts on “OBJECTIVE INDY”

  1. Ata girl, Sally. I couldn’t agree more and wish you every success. I’m not in your constituency or I’d vote for you, but I do so hope you win.

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  3. I wish you well Sally and hope that you succeed in your efforts to get elected in Perth and Kinross. The current incumbent has been there since 2001 and has achieved nothing in furthering Scotland’s Cause. Indeed he and his ilk of supposedly pro-Independence MPs and MSPs have acted as a brake on our movement and then a roadblock when these brakes have failed.

    I recognised in the prior article (by Bill Clark) published on this website that both the Scottish National Party and the Alba Party deferred, in one way or another, to Westminster. It follows that in so doing they compromise the sovereignty of the Scottish people (as protected in the Claim of Right, 1689) and undermine the Scottish people’s right of self-determination (as defined in the UN Charter).

    My question regarding the “Indy4Indy” candidates are these:

    In the event of their being successfully elected what happens next?

    How will winning seats to the HoC further Scotland’s Cause?

    If there is a large cohort of genuinely Independence minded MPs returned how do they propose to act on the sovereignty of the Scottish people and enact our right of self-determination?

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    1. Good questions Duncanio – I’m pretty sure that the candidates who have announced so far will ask their constituents what they should do – old-fashioned I know. What options would you have them discuss with folks on the door ?

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      1. “I’m pretty sure that the candidates who have announced so far will ask their constituents what they should do”

        Do you mean, geoffbush, what they should do to advance Scotland’s Cause?

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      2. Not specifically , I mean what you think they should do in response to the questions you posed.

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      3. OK, thanks.

        It probably makes sense to take them in reverse order:

        “If there is a large cohort of genuinely Independence minded MPs returned how do they propose to act on the sovereignty of the Scottish people and enact our right of self-determination?“

        If the initiative is to have a chance of success there has to at least be a sizeable cohort of (I4I and party) candidates genuinely in favour of restoring Scotland’s full self-government. I would expect, and encourage, the candidate to establish a network of links of like-minded fellow candidates across Scotland’s constituencies so that they can act as one if/when elected. The re-establishment of the Scottish nation-state should be front and foremost in their manifesto(s).

        Assuming success, and a majority are returned, they should combine on the basis of their manifesto pledge(s) and withdraw from Westminster. A grand convention of all nationally elected (Westminster and Holyrood) representatives should be called in order to draw up plans for explicitly ratification by the people for ending the Union.

        These plans should ensure that a referendum is ‘Made in Scotland’. That is, the question posed, answer options, franchise for voting, timing of plebiscite and vote counting inspectorate should all be determined by the grand convention. There should not be any British involvement as to allow this would necessarily compromise, undermine and invalidate the process as would any other foreign government involvement.

        Assuming endorsement of the people, Independence is declared. No negotiations on (what would then be) that fact. It would only be the division of assets and liabilities that would requite to be settled.

        “How will winning seats to the HoC further Scotland’s Cause?“

        The honest answer I would expect from a candidate is that, unless there are a majority of genuine pro-Independence candidates returned, it won’t.

        Yes, the local issues such as the oil refinery in Grangemouth can be fought for and possibly even saved – although I wouldn’t bet on it – for a while just as the Ravenscraig steelworks were … before it closed permanently.

        These matters will always be decided on a whim by the bulk of non-Scottish MPs in the HoC and Scotland’s plight will always be precarious when we are subject to the colonial asset-strippers.

        “In the event of their being successfully elected what happens next?“

        This question has effectively been answered in my own responses to the two previous questions:

        Success: Majority of pro-Independence candidates

        Representatives withdraw, convene, self-determine & #EndtheUnion

        Failure:

        Repeat until successful

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  4. The emergence of Independents for Independence has been one of the brightest of political events recently and candidates that put country before party. It’s not that we don’t already have such candidates but they don’t appear to get the same exposure in the media and as they are a bigger threat to the union that is only to be expected.

    It may seem strange to say individuals are a bigger threat than political parties but I do believe that’s true. Parties that are intent of achieving the maximum number of bums on seats at Westminster have been proven ineffectual – I have heard enough of “The people of Scotland won’t stand for…………”. and most definitely more than enough of declaring the Westminster parliament being sovereign over Scots.

    The exodus of members from the “2 main parties for independence” is an illustration of how frustrated people have become with the same old messages and the same old top-down approach and personality politics. As far as the electorate is concerned, they stopped listening to politicians quite some time ago and instead judge them by what they actually achieve for the people.

    Proposing to send yet another batch of MPs to the fraud that is the “UK Parliament” is hardly inspirational or something that will enthuse most who truly believe in Scotland’s right to self-determination and independence. With the ISP being the only party that refuses to play their games they may be the smallest party by membership but I understand that numbers are increasing and their message of abstentionism is rapidly gaining favour.

    Therefore, I wish the Independents of Independence candidates well and hope that they get the MSM coverage they deserve. I know that any MSM recognition is going to be a challenge but they are new and something different from the stale outdated messages that will be churned our ad nauseum by the “main parties”.

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    1. I am also tired of the trope “Scotland’s Voice will be heard at Westminster”
      As far as I can see it is just ignored.
      If our elected representatives do not take up their seats the Union is over. ( I have heard!!!!)
      Is this True?
      IF SO LETS GET IT DONE.

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    2. I must admit when I heard Sally and Eva Comrie had stated they would be standing as independents for independence I was enthused and excited , but I read a comment on Off Topic Scotland that said that Sally and Eva would not be abstaining from WM , may I ask Sally to refute or confirm the content of that comment , and if she is not abstaining, how is giving credibility to a parliament that denigrates and demeans Scotland and Scots on a daily basis whilst stealing our resources and keeping our citizens in poverty going to gain our independence

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      1. Without giving anything away I believe
        Sally has a plan about how she can greatly help move. Independence forward by turning up in Westminster after being elected.

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  7. I sincerely hope Sally wins and gets rid of the carrot muncher AKA Slippers.. I would love to see Scots wake up, & with Leanne Tervits Schemes get on the electoral list once more & have the turn out we did in 2014, & do what we did in 2015 (when we removed all but 3 UNIONISTS from Scotland) We did it once we can do it again. But this time our aim must also be to rid Scotland of the rotten to the Core Scottish Nasty Party that is the SNP.. I also agree with Sally we can not afford to wait till 2026, we have to start NOW at the GE..

    For decades Scots were fooled by Labour that they were a good Scottish Party, they were not they are not they are a London based party, as are the Tories & the Liberals, The greens are more like Aliens who arrived & caused havoc and we must rid our country of them as well as the London based UNIONIST Parties. But our real fight is how to get rid of the once so called Independence Party, who at best can be described as the party of DEVOLUTION, my opinion is, there are way too many who have been bought by WM & will always look after their own salaries & Pensions at the expense of helping Scotland’s demise..That makes them sell outs..

    For me, our way forward is via I4I along with ISP, as every other party has signed up to taking up any seat they might win for WM. But sadly the thing is, That includes I4I... I keep hoping they will change their minds on that.. Because I have never believed that any true Independence candidate should ever sit in a Parliament that they are supposedly standing to free this country from..

    So long as they are prepared to go to that den of corruption, where they will be ignored & certainly laughed if they do swear allegiance to Scotland. As Sally intends to do. Oh! it will sound good, but will only work if they WALK out right after doing so. Anyone who swears an Oath to the English King proves right away they are NOT there to fight for Scotland..Same if they swear to that English Parliament..

    Go down, if you must, do your worst then walk out, come home and work for your constituents who put their faith in you to fight for them & this country. The ISP at least have made it clear they won’t take up seats in WM.. I just hope I4I candidates change their minds and do the same.. Or Scotland will just be let down again.. WM ignores Scotland, Ignores every question raised by Kenny or Neale or Angus, they have done the same with the SNP since 2015, sneered & shouted them down. It is time Scotland IGNORED WM.. As has been said often enough Scotland IS already an Independent country TODAY, It is time we

    started acting like one..

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  9. You are absolutely correct in your assessment. The artificial constraint of maintaining “group alignment” neuters the organisation. Indy4Indy is just what we need. People who ACT for Independence instead of trying to pretend they agree on every issue.

    The best vetting of candidates is by People we know and trust. The first two candidates have passed that easily.

    We need to cross the line to win Indy and THEN bring in the myriad of topics sitting in the Wings.

    I personally have only two red lines

    a) Candidates for Indy4Indy must support Independence.

    b) Candidates must support the Rights of Adult Human Females.

    Everything else I’m happy to leave in the hands of the Sovereign People of Scotland after Independence.

    Good Luck and I will support you….get that Fundraiser up.

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  10. In my view all the political parties are compromised. So an independent ( End the Union), candidate is the best way to push our democracy home to the Colonial masters and end the farcical one way corupt Union once and for all.

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  11. excellent piece, but how can I share it. Especially to the public. Mega seems hell bent on closing down Indy blogs, ref Gordon Ross.

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  14. Great to see the courage and determination from Sally and Eva and I wish both well. They will need both qualities in spades as they face the inevitable negativity and/or being ignored by the media and probably also very nasty misogynistic smears, which seems to be what happens to women who raise their heads above the parapet, especially in politics, at present.

    I would like to see their example inspire a few others, male or female, to stand as Independent for Independence candidates. I think the attitudes of folk in Scotland are beginning to change as more realise the seriousness of the position we are in and also realise the huge injustices done to our country for over 300 years. I am hopeful that the more we can get this information out, the more likely it is that we get support for Eva and Sally, while others might be moved to join.

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  15. “They cannot afford to lose Scotland.  And Scotland, all of her citizens, from all corners of the political spectrum, cannot afford to underestimate them.

    Political Parties can, and have done great things.  There is strength in numbers, in resources, in research, in fundraising and activists.  But none of them own the Independence movement, none of them have a monopoly.”

    Both points are very true, on the first we’ll need to take our independence for Westminster won’t give it, you don’t colonise a country to subsidise it you do it to asset strip it among other things.

    On the second point, the only party I see that actually wants to make a change is the ISP in which if its reps are elected to Westminster they will abstain, supposedly indy minded parties sending MPs to Westminster is a no no in my book, they ALL end up settling in, and not settling up, so ISP is for me.

    As for political parties owning the indy movement as you say they don’t Salvo isn’t aligned to any political party, when they clearly show that England/Westminster has broken the rules of the Treaty of Union (and they have on multiple occasions) we (the people) should dissolve the union. The international community can have no objections when they find out that Westminster/England has been breaking the Treaty. We shouldn’t need any vote to leave which is open to abuse.

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  17. I’m glad that Sally Hughes is standing as an independent candidate. I’ve read her contributions here on YfS and detected more than a little mettle and good sense within them. Importantly, she also knows the constituency and its problems and appears to have the nous to do something meaningful about them. Aw the very best to you, Sally!

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  18. Firstly at the moment we have two Indy4indy candidates willing to stand and both are ladies. They have no campaign up and running so I wish we could cut them some slack until they get organised. It is a bit early to start to argue about whether they will take up their seats should they win as that is a long way off. All I can say at the moment is would one or both of them be an upgrade on the pair of chancers that they are going to stand against and that would be a massive YES. Will they take up their seats should they win I have no idea but I hear Sally on the prism show state that should she win she will take a Scottish oath at Westminster which would be a massive event and likely tip the current speaker over the edge should he still be in a job. A noble quest.

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  19. I am at the point where I see no advantage in keeping up the Westminster numbers, I’m afraid. Have never felt so disappointed and betrayed by politicians. I wish both you and Eva all the best, though, Sally.

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    1. Likewise , Lorna . Similarly , I wish all the best to Sally & Eva . I would much rather see these two fine women in Holyrood , rather than propping-up the sclerotic W.M costume drama

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